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18 Character Exits That Hurt The Arrowverse (And 7 That Need To Go)

The Arrowverse has lasted for about seven years. Over the course of those years and four connected series, fans have seen a lot of characters come and go. Sometimes, it’s been met with jubilation. Other times, it’s one of the saddest things an audience has ever seen, but that’s the nature of the game in television: actors have other projects they want to pursue, characters have run out their story arcs, or the show itself just decides to go in a different direction. It happens.

Over the course of about seven years, since Arrow started back in 2012, we’ve seen a lot of heroes and villains cross our screens. While eight times out of ten, the Big Bad’s tend to not win our hearts and minds, most of the time, we’re pretty sad when we see the heroes go. The state of leaving the Arrowverse is pretty malleable, all things considered, but more often than not, someone saying goodbye doesn’t always mean goodbye. Granted, that’s the kind of confusion that one can expect from a superhero universe. No one stays gone forever as there’s always a Lazarus Pit, a doppleganger, or something in the wings. When we say “exit,” we mean someone that we believe is more or less gone, someone we haven’t seen on screen in a while or won’t see anytime in the near future. Then, there are the ones who should go. Here are 18 Character Exits That Hurt The Arrowverse (And 7 That Need To Go).

25 NEEDS TO GO: Ricardo Diaz (Kirk Acevedo)

A problem with a lot of bad guys across the Arrowverse is that they tend to be too much. While we understand the need for a strong bad guy to match wits with the heroes, there is such a thing as being too strong. Ricardo Diaz is definitely one of those chess masters. Known as the Dragon, he seemed to be ten steps ahead of Oliver (Stephen Amell) and his crew. And even when he was down, he always seemed to have the advantage.

Currently, he resides in Slabside Prison. Though, we have to wonder how long that will be for. If he returns, then let him be brought down a little, but for now, he should stay gone.

24 HURT: Dante Ramon (Nicholas Gonzalez)

Dante only appeared in a couple episodes of the earlier seasons. The arrogant, more beloved brother of Cisco Ramon (Carlos Valdes), Dante definitely had a grating way about him. Although Cisco still loved his older brother, even if he got on his nerves, the relationship extended to the more villainous siblings of Earth-2, where Dante was a metahuman named Rupture. But, it appeared that the brothers’ relationship would have a little more foundation going forward.

Then, after Flashpoint, it was revealed that Dante passed in the new timeline that Barry (Grant Gustin) found himself in. It definitely took away some more stories to tell about the Ramon brothers, which was a bummer.

23 HURT: Jefferson “Jax” Jackson (Franz Drameh)

The second half of Firestorm, Jefferson “Jax” Jackson was never certain about this whole superhero business at first. Over the years, however, his friendship with Grey (Martin Stein) grew. He became more comfortable in his own skin as a hero and as a person, and when Stein was taken from the team, Jax was able to have his body stabilize without needing the Firestorm matrix.

When he joined the Waverider in the fight against Mallus (John Noble), five years had passed for him. He has a wife and daughter, so it’s good to see that Jax made his own happy ending.

22 HURT: Olivia Marsden (Lynda Carter)

There’s always a chance that we’ll see Lynda Carter on Supergirl again. Her story arc, being forcibly outed as an alien, does seem to be largely completed and it was frustrating that her decision was to step down, rather than fight for her leadership. It comes down to the fact that even though she is an alien, she was born in the United States, so she has every right to lead under Article II.

Mainly, we just liked seeing Lynda Carter in this position. If there is a best possible timeline, then it’s one where Wonder Woman ends up leading the United States. 

21 NEEDS TO GO: James Olsen (Mehcad Brooks)

If there is one glaring flaw with Supergirl’s characters, then it’s that no one really knows what to do with James Olsen. Originally conceived as the original love interest for Kara (Melissa Benoist), it was a plot thread dropped at the start of season two. His transition into Guardian moved too quick and was ignored for long periods of time. Some of his decisions, such as giving the Children of Liberty a chance, doesn’t make sense in light of things he revealed about his past.

Despite Brooks’ considerable efforts, no one seems to know what to do with the character. At this point, it’s probably better to just cut their losses.

20 HURT: Wally West (Keiynan Lonsdale)

Wally West was an addition to The Flash that fans have been waiting for since season one. While Barry does have a lot of Wally’s traits, Keiynan Lonsdale did an amazing job of stepping into the role. From civilian, to member of Team Flash, to becoming Kid Flash, Lonsdale has more than proven that he is perfect in the role. Something about his free and easy nature shows a different, less weighed sort of hero aspect that Barry had grown into.

When he went on his journey of self-discovery and ended up on the Legends, he proved to be a valuable fit. We are definitely hoping to learn what happened with Starro and him.

19 HURT: Lucy Lane (Jenna Dewan)

Some parts of the first season of Supergirl didn’t survive the network switch from CBS to the CW: James and Kara’s romance, the DEO desert base, and, what we believe, some plot lines as well. Lucy, the younger sister of Lois Lane (Bitsie Tulloch), joined as a recurring character in the first season, who fans of comics know that she would one day become Superwoman.

With the network switch, along with production heading to Canada, however, some stars couldn’t make the move, and Jenna Dewan was one of them. It was definitely a shame because it looks like Supergirl was heading for a Caitlin Snow/Killer Frost (Danielle Panabaker) situation. That would have been pretty awesome. 

18 HURT: Jesse Wells (Violett Beane)

The Earth-2 daughter of Harrison “Harry” Wells (Tom Cavanagh) and his wife, Jesse Wells was a brilliant student before she was taken by Zoom (Teddy Sears). Rescuing her took most of the second season, then she ended up developing her own set of speedster powers. Unsurprisingly, Jesse Wells is supposed be the Arrowverse’s version of Jesse Quick, but she doesn’t need the equation of her counterpart.

With Beane going full time for God Friended Me, it looks like she’s gone from the Arrowverse for a time. Still, her final episodes, especially the repairing of her and her father’s relationship, were a good send-off to the character.

17 NEEDS TO GO: Hank Heywood (Tom Wilson)

The difficult to please father of Nate Heywood (Nick Zano) debuted this season with the storyline following how Nate tries to make amends with his father and join the Time Bureau full time. Unfortunately, there are just so many times that you can tread out the whole “father and son make amends” narrative before it feels a bit stale. The fact that it’s already run out of steam by the sixth episode shows a lot.

Plus, how much of a story can you share when Hank clearly has his own wicked agenda with Project Hades? Any goodwill they manage to build will be nullified by that.

16 HURT: Prometheus/Adrian Chase (Josh Segarra)

Easily one of the best villains that Arrow produced, Prometheus was a terror to behold during season five of the show; part of it comes from the fact that there was a dry spell of weak Big Bad’s. Fearsomely competent, a planner, and ready to take revenge on Oliver, Prometheus never crossed the line into ludicrously overpowered.

Unfortunately, it was a shame that it ended on the final act of his plan to cause Oliver pain. The aftereffects of Prometheus’ reign are still being felt today on the show, which is the mark of a great villain. 

15 HURT: Julian Albert (Tom Felton)

Season three of The Flash doesn’t have the track record of being the best season of the series. One of the bright spots, however, was Tom Felton joining the cast as Julian Albert. It led into an interesting dynamic between he and Barry at the CCPD. He was honestly pretty spooky as the villainous Doctor Alchemy, and when free from that control, he helped the team as best he could.

It did hurt a little bit that he was dropped, off-screen, in the lead-up to season four. It just felt like a sudden closing on a chapter that could have been further explored. However, Tom Felton is apparently open to returning, so there’s that.

14 HURT: Deathstroke/Slade Wilson (Manu Bennett)

Deathstroke is one of the best Big Bad’s to come out of the Arrowverse as a whole. Played with fierce intensity by Manu Bennett, Slade Wilson is everything you want in bringing a classic character to life. While most Big Bad’s tend to focus on the big picture: dominating the city, ruling the world, etc, what makes Slade (and Prometheus) work so well is that he focuses on making Oliver’s life difficult.

He doesn’t want to rule or to dominate, he wants to eliminate Oliver Queen and his world, which is the sweetest thing he could think of. When he left permanently, it was definitely a sad end.

13 NEEDS TO GO: Mona (Ramona Young)

Mona has already been on a couple episodes of Legends of Tomorrow, and while she hasn’t been on long, she’s a bit much. Though it’s clear that creators were trying to go for an Ella Lopez (Aimee Garcia) or Nora West-Allen (Jessica Parker Kennedy) sort of vibe, there’s something about Mona that is just pushing things too much. Maybe it’s because the Legends are all quirky in their own way that Mona’s own brand of quirk seems forced in the series. Either way, something needs to give with this character.  

12 HURT: Ronnie Raymond (Robbie Amell)

The first love of Caitlin Snow, Ronnie Raymond was a ghost that haunted her over the course of the first season. In the particle accelerator explosion, it caused him to fuse with Martin Stein (Victor Garber) into the first iteration of Firestorm. Later, Ronnie would appear on and off through the first season as he and Stein learned how to handle their abilities.

In the season one finale, Ronnie sacrifices himself to help close the portal that Thawne opened. And although many people believe that Barry saved Central City, Ronnie was the true hero of the day and his sacrifice wasn’t even remembered.

11 HURT: Amaya Jiwe (Maisie Richardson-Sellers)

After the mess of the first season of Legends of Tomorrow, Amaya Jiwe was definitely one of the saving graces that helped the show recover. The first casualty from one of the tribes of Zambesi, who is the grandmother of later Vixen Mari (Megalyn Echikunwoke), was part of the Justice Society of America. After the passing of her love, Rex Tyler (Patrick J. Adams), she would join the team to figure out who took him from her.

Eventually, Amaya would become a valuable part of the team and partner to Nate Heywood. While Maisie Richardson-Sellers remains as Charlie, we really miss Amaya and her common sense.

10 HURT: Cat Grant (Calista Flockhart)

One of the best parts of Supergirl’s first season, Cat Grant took no nonsense from anyone. Clever, tenacious, witty, and rarely compromising, she ruled the media landscape with her perfectly manicured fist. Flockhart was great in the role and her scenes with Benoist were highlights.

With the move to Vancouver for production, however, Flockhart left the show as a regular. Though she remains open to guest-starring, she hasn’t shared a screen with the characters since season two. Without her, there is definitely something missing in the CatCo scenes and in the show overall.

9 NEEDS TO GO: Baker (Bruce Boxleitner)

With the exit of Lynda Carter, it was time for a new leader to step forward on Earth-38, and naturally, her second-in-command succeeded her. This guy, though, is kind of a mess, willing to bend to domestic oppositions rather than actually show some backbone against them. He has the nerve to demand that Kara reveal her identity for “the good of the nation” and disrespects Alex Danvers (Chyler Leigh) as well.

Look, it’s not easy being a leader of the country, but Supergirl works with the DEO, not for it. Really, this guy needs to show some backbone rather than capitulating to the enemy’s cries.

8 HURT: Captain Cold/Leonard Snart (Wentworth Miller)

Wentworth Miller’s guest spots as Leonard Snart was a highlight throughout the first season of The Flash. It was unsurprising that his popularity was so great that he was added to the first season of Legends roster. After sacrificing himself in the penultimate episode of the show’s first season, Miller appeared on Legends of Tomorrow and The Flash sparingly; usually, it was a past version of him.

Later, however, he announced that he will be leaving the Arrowverse formally during the 2017-2018 television season and his absence on both series is definitely felt. Where else could we find a morally ambiguous pun machine like Snart? Nowhere, that’s where.

7 HURT: Winn Schott, Jr. (Jeremy Jordan)

Despite the whole “friend zone” storyline of season one, Winn Schott, Jr. grew into one of the much-needed sources of humor on Supergirl. A genius with computers and tech, Winn often acted as the “man in the chair” for Kara, creating and improving gadgets for her as needed. After working as I.T. for CatCo, Winn eventually went to the DEO as an agent, though he usually worked from behind the scenes.

Afterwards, he would leave with Mon-El (Chris Wood) to the future in order to fight against the original Brainiac. It was definitely a more confident, less haunted version of the character who went. And even though Brainy (Jesse Rath) has stepped into his shoes, we definitely miss Winn’s cheerful nature. 

6 HURT: Henry Allen (John Wesley Shipp)

The wrongfully convicted and imprisoned father of Barry Allen, Henry had spent most of his son’s life behind bars. Even locked away in Iron Heights, Henry was still a good father to his son by offering advice and encouragement as needed. Freed with the confession of “Harrison Wells” (actually Eobard Thawne), Henry went to live in a cabin in the woods. Later on in the season, he was taken out by Zoom, which sent Barry into a spiral that ended with Flashpoint.

While it’s clear that Henry’s passing was necessary for Flashpoint to happen, it still feels like a waste of a character.

5 NEEDS TO GO: Cicada/Orlin Dwyer (Chris Klein)

Cicada is honestly one of the better Big Bads that The Flash has had ever since Eobard Thawne (Tom Cavanagh) set the bar back in season one. Even so, by introducing him so early and making him so known to the team, the show runs a risk of overexposure. It’s a problem with all Arrowverse shows, though, as more often than not, they have an issue drawing out 20+ episodes of an arc for a Big Bad. They would all do better in trying for two a season.

While Cicada is plenty spooky and heartbreaking, his rampage should end sooner rather than later. We don’t want him to wear out his welcome like previous villains have.

4 HURT: Sara Lance (Caity Lotz)

Sara Lance will always be one of the most competent characters of the Arrowverse. As an expert fighter and a good friend, she has grown into a capable Captain of the Legends. She was a more than welcome addition to Arrow’s second season and proved to be popular, which made her passing at Thea’s (Willa Holland) hands at the start of season three so surprising.

No one was expecting that at all. It honestly set a tone for a season that was less than great as Sara was an important member of Team Arrow. However, it felt like she was just pushed off in order to make a point rather than fill a plot. Luckily, the Lazarus Pit came in during season four. 

3 HURT: The Wells(es) (Tom Cavanagh)

Every season of The Flash seems to bring with it a new version of Harrison Wells. With a showcase of Tom Cavanagh’s considerable talent, it’s always sad to see a Wells leave the group. H.R., for example, sacrificed himself in order to stop a dark future from coming to pass and saved Iris’ life in the process.

Harrison “Harry” Wells was a valuable member of the team in seasons two and four. His gruff nature and friendship with Cisco were some of the highlights of those respective seasons. Without his considerable intelligence and that of a normal person, it looks like he can repair his relationship with his daughter. Even so, we still miss the dynamics that they bring to the team.

2 HURT: Martin Stein (Victor Garber)

While “Crisis On Earth-X” was definitely one of the best crossovers in the Arrowverse, we’re still not sure why we had to have Nazis in it; we could have done the same story with Crime Syndicate of America or Justice Lords. Martin Stein had been an invaluable part of the Arrowverse since The Flash’s first season, acting as a source of wisdom and paternal advice.

Losing him in a desperate attempt to take out a Nazi stronghold? It just feels a bit weird to us. In the aftermath of his passing, there is still a sense of mourning for their lost comrade among the crew of the Waverider and the fans. 

1 NEEDS TO GO: Eobard Thawne (Tom Cavanagh/Matt Lenscher)

Eobard Thawne remains the best Big Bad that The Flash has ever had as he was excellent on that show and in season two of Legends. What we’re worried about, however, is overexposure of the character. Sometimes, a villain weakens the more that we see him appear. Like Damien Darhk (Neal McDonough), who only grew to a frankly illogical power level over the years he appeared.

With the reveal that Eobard is possibly manipulating Nora from the future, we’re concerned. Could this be what breaks the camel’s back and makes Eobard go from chess master to annoyance? Hopefully, he remains as villainous as ever, but it may be time to let him go.

Are there any other characters that hurt or need to go from the Arrowverse? Let us know in the comments below!



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2018-12-16 03:12:35

Arrowverse: Elseworlds Crossover Schedule

Here’s the schedule for Elseworlds, this year’s Arrowverse crossover, and how you can watch all three episodes. The CW’s annual crossover is the biggest event on their superhero universe’s calendar – but Elseworlds is no ordinary crossover. It also introduces Batwoman (Ruby Rose), the Arrowverse’s newest superhero, and will open the door to a Batwoman solo series set in Gotham City.

Each crossover has grown in scale as the Arrowverse has evolved; 2016’s Invasion! and 2017’s Crisis on Earth-X spanned all four Arrowverse series where they fought aliens and other-dimensional Nazis, respectively. For 2018’s Elseworlds, the crossover is slightly scaled back, at least in the number of series participating. Elseworlds will span The Flash, Arrow, and Supergirl only; DC’s Legends of Tomorrow will be sitting this event out.

Related: Why Legends of Tomorrow Aren’t In The Elseworlds Crossover

However, that doesn’t mean Elseworlds will be any less epic. The superheroes will assemble to battle a threat to multiple Earths by the villainous Arkham Asylum doctor John Deegan (Jeremy Davies) and a powerful being called the Monitor (LaMonica Garrett). This will not only require Green Arrow (Stephen Amell), The Flash (Grant Gustin), and Supergirl (Melissa Benoist) to join forces, but will also guest star Superman (Tyler Hoechlin), introduce Lois Lane (Elizabeth Tulloch), an evil Black Suit Superman, and John Wesley Shipp reprising his role as the Flash from his 1990 CBS series. Plus there are expected to be other Easter eggs and surprises for DC fans.

Just as Barry Allen and Oliver Queen are switching bodies in Elseworlds, with Amell playing the Flash and Gustin playing Green Arrow, two of the series are also switching timeslots. The Flash is kicking off the event by temporarily moving into Supergirl‘s Sunday night timeslot and Supergirl moves to The Flash‘s Tuesday night berth to close out the crossover. With that in mind, here’s the complete Elseworlds‘ schedule and The CW’s synopses:

Sunday, Dec. 9th @8pm: The Flash Season 5, Episode 9: Elseworlds, Part 1

This episode will mark the second time Barry Allen has traveled to Supergirl’s Earth-38, but it will be a first for Oliver Queen. Meeting Superman and Lois Lane will also be a first for both Green Arrow and The Flash. A cool Easter egg to look out for: the Kent Farm is the same one from Smallville.

When Barry Allen (Grant Gustin) and Oliver Queen (guest star Stephen Amell) wake up one morning and realize they have swapped bodies with each other, the two set off to find out what disturbed the timeline to cause such a shift.  However, things quickly go from bad to worse when they present their case to Team Flash and the gang doesn’t believe them. Barry and Oliver realize they need Supergirl’s (guest star Melissa Benoist) help and travel to Smallville on Earth-38 where they end up meeting Kara’s cousin, Clark Kent (guest star Tyler Hoechlin), and intrepid reporter, Lois Lane (guest star Elizabeth Tulloch).  LaMonica Garrett guest stars as The Monitor.

Monday, Dec. 10th @8pm: Arrow Season 7, Episode 9: Elseworlds, Part 2

This is the episode that introduces Batwoman and Gotham City. It should also answer some burning questions fans have about where Batman is in the Arrowverse.

With Oliver (Stephen Amell) and Barry (guest star Grant Gustin) still stuck in the other’s bodies, the two get a lead on John Deegan (guest star Jeremy Davies) and head to Gotham City with Supergirl (guest star Melissa Benoist) to figure out why their reality has changed.  While there, they meet the mysterious Kate Kane (guest star Ruby Rose) who provides them with information that leads the group to Arkham Asylum.

Tuesday, Dec. 11th @8pm: Supergirl Season 4, Episode 9: Elseworlds, Part 3

Supergirl closes out Elseworlds and is expected to feature a battle against the evil Black Suit Superman. The final chapter could also contain some huge surprises that will affect the Arrowverse going forward.

Supergirl (Melissa Benoist), The Flash (guest star Grant Gustin), Green Arrow (guest star Stephen Amell) and Superman (guest star Tyler Hoechlin) engage in the battle of their lives.

Next: Elseworlds Trailer Breakdown: 10 Secrets And Reveals About The Arrowverse Crossover



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2018-12-08 09:12:30

Arrowverse Elseworlds Tease Explained: 1990s Flash vs The Monitor

The latest episodes of the Arrowverse ended with a dramatic teaser setting up the “Elseworlds” event featuring the 1990s Flash and the Monitor. This is probably the most exciting Arrowverse crossover to date, bringing together the heroes of various different realities and serving as a back-door pilot for the Batwoman TV series. It promises to redefine the Arrowverse’s understanding of their multiverse, with this first clip already revealing the existence of Earth-90.

Jeremy Davies has been confirmed as the main villain of “Elseworlds,” a character named Dr. John Deegan. He’s been described as a doctor at Arkham Asylum who’s every bit as insane as his patients, but it’s as yet unclear how Deegan will come to trigger a Multiversal catastrophe. One popular theory suggests Deegan is an alias for Batman villain Dr. Hugo Strange, while another posits that he’s really the telepathic villain Dr. Destiny. Whatever the truth may be, DCTV is evidently keeping Deegan under wraps right now; he doesn’t feature in this first teaser, which instead focuses on establishing the sheer scale of the “Elseworlds” event.

Related: Every Superhero In The Arrowverse: Flash, Supergirl, & More

The Supergirl stinger scene is set on Earth-90, home of the Flash from the 1990 TV series. It reveals a host of fallen superheroes who presumably allied with the Flash against a terrible threat; attentive viewers will recognize versions of Green Arrow, Firestorm, The Ray, Hawkman and Hawkgirl, and even Stargirl. Unfortunately, they’ve all fallen in battle – indeed, some of the deaths look particularly brutal. John Wesley Shipp’s Flash seems to be the last surviving hero, and he confronts the cosmic being known as the Monitor.

The Flash’s pleas for mercy fall on deaf ears, as the Monitor insists that the heroes – perhaps the entire world – “did this to yourselves.” The Monitor opens a mysterious book, unleashing cosmic energies, but the Flash races away – presumably jumping out of his world, and on to another. It seems this brief clip has revealed the destruction of Earth-90 – and it’s safe to assume the heroes of SupergirlArrow, and The Flash will wind up uniting with Shipp’s incarnation in an effort to stop the devastation being repeated.

This teaser raises countless questions. Even the designation of this doomed world as Earth-90 is a shocking one; the Arrowverse has previously established that there are only 52 Earths in its Multiverse, with the addition of Earth-X. It looks as though everything the shows have established as the Multiverse may well be wrong. Meanwhile, the glimpse of the Monitor as an apparent villain is somewhat surprising; he’s normally portrayed as an ally to the heroes. It’s possible this stinger is misleading, and that this is the Monitor’s evil and destructive counterpart, the Anti-Monitor. In the classic “Crisis on Infinite Earths” event, it was revealed that the Anti-Monitor was destroying entire universes, consuming them as fuel to increase his power; perhaps something similar is happening here. But what is the book held by the Monitor/Anti-Monitor? At this stage it’s difficult to say, but it’s possible it could be the Book of Destiny. Strongly associated with the Sandman comics, this book contains the written record of everything that is and ever will be. If this is indeed the case, it could be the most powerful artifact the Arrowverse heroes have ever encountered.

This year’s Arrowverse crossover remains something of a mystery. It’s known to involve a body-swap for Flash and Green Arrow, one that sees them head to Supergirl’s reality for help (for undisclosed reasons). Exactly how this ties into the destruction of Earth-90 is unknown, suggesting there will be a lot of unexpected plot twists over the course of the event.

More: Elseworlds: Everything You Need To Know About The Arrowverse Crossover

Arrowverse’s “Elseworlds” event begins with The Flash on Sunday, December 9 at 8pm ET, and continues with Arrow on Monday at 8pm ET and concludes with Supergirl on Tuesday at 8pm ET.



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2018-12-05 04:12:04

Arrowverse Elseworlds Trailer Breakdown: 12 Secrets & Reveals About The Crossover

The trailer for Arrowverse Elseworlds has some big reveals about the upcoming crossover event. With the mid-season finales of the three shows teaming up having aired, The CW has released one final trailer that is packed full of revelations. Some of them are simple character reveals, such as our first look at Kate Kane without the Batwoman costume. Others involve supervillains who had not previously been advertised as part of the event.

However, there was a lot of new information in the latest Elseworlds trailer. It reveals some substantial new information about the Arrowverse crossover story and hints at the ultimate identity of the mysterious Dr. John Deegan at the center of the plot, and the strange book he is given that has the power to rewrite reality.

Related: Arrowverse Elseworlds Tease Explained: 1990s Flash vs The Monitor

With three different shows colliding, a new superhero being introduced, and some very weird body-swapping going on, let’s see what we can figure out from the new Arrowverse Elseworlds trailer.

12. Oliver Queen & Barry Allen React To Swapping Bodies

One of the first big reveals regarding Elseworlds was that Oliver Queen and Barry Allen would be trading places for the duration of the event. The opening scenes of the trailer show that the two heroes have swapped bodies, a la Freaky Friday, rather than reality being rewritten so that Barry Allen was stranded on Lian Yu and Oliver Queen was struck by lightning. This point is further emphasized as Caitlin Snow asks a confused Oliver Queen if he’s sure he didn’t go back in time and accidentally change the timeline again. Barry Allen, in Oliver Queen’s body, insists that he is Barry Allen.

11. Elseworlds’ Villain Gets The Book of Souls

A new scene shows Dr. John Deegan being handed a large book by an alien being and being told to “reshape the world as you see fit.” Both the book and the alien being (previously identified as a Monitor) appeared in the Elseworlds prologue. The book has not been identified by any particular name yet, but it resembles The Book of Souls – an artifact in the DC Comics Universe that is capable of rewriting reality and is usually possessed by Destiny of The Endless, from Neil Gaiman’s Sandman.

10. 1990s Flash Enters The Arrowverse Crossover

Another early revelation regarding Elseworlds was that it would feature the version of Barry Allen played by John Wesley Shipp on the 1990s The Flash television series. Now identified as The Flash of Earth-90, this Flash appears in a new scene in the new trailer, warning us that “… a Crisis is coming.” The classic DC Comics had several major events which were labeled with the word “Crisis” but the most famous of these – Crisis on Infinite Earths – has been hinted as a probable future event for the Arrowverse since the first episode of the 2014 Flash series.

9. Kate Kane Rains On The Your Parade

The trailer gives us another look at Batwoman in action, apparently fighting Cisco Ramon. When Cisco asks who she is, the action suddenly cuts to a clip of a Ruby Rose, not in the Batwoman costume, saying “The rain on your parade.” This is the first time that we have seen the actress in something relating to the crossover event where she wasn’t dressed up as Batwoman.

Related: Arrowverse May Be Teasing The Joker In Elseworlds Crossover

8. Team Flash Turn On Barry Allen

There is a rather lengthy sequence in the trailer where Oliver Queen yells at Barry Allen that he was betrayed by his team and that they weren’t there for him when he needed them. This begins with a scene of Barry Allen being knocked out by a clearly distraught Elongated Man. There’s no indication of why Team Flash might turn on Barry, but a safe bet is they may be afraid he’s lost his mind if he continues to insist that the real Barry Allen is Oliver Queen and vice versa.

7. Killer Frost Working With ARGUS?

During the sequence in which Oliver Queen shouts at Barry about being betrayed by Team Flash, we get another quick clip that seems to show Killer Frost and John Diggle together.  Killer Frost has her hair done in an intricate braided style and also seems to be wearing a black ARGUS uniform. This presents an interesting possibility: could Caitlin Snow’s disassociated personality have a separate physical presence in the world of Elseworlds, who is employed by ARGUS? Or is Killer Frost just temporarily working with ARGUS?

Page 2: Black Suit Superman, Reverse Flash Returns, & More!

6. The Scientists At Work

John Diggle and Caitlin Snow figure into another scene later in the Arrowverse Elseworlds trailer. The quick clip shows them, along with Curtis Holt and Felicity Smoak on a rooftop, in the middle of a storm that is sparking red lightning, while crowding around some kind of device. There is no indication what the device is or what the storm means but it is nice to know that Team Flash and Team Arrow’s tech-support will have a role to play in Elseworlds as well.

5. An Angry Superman In A Black Suit

As The Flash of Earth-90 declares that what happened to his Earth will not happen to this one, we see a quick clip of Tyler Hoechlin in a black Superman costume.  While it has been known for some time that Hoechlin would be appearing in the darker costume, we still don’t know precisely why. The clip shows that this Superman is clearly not happy, however, and he seems to be standing inside the STAR Labs building of Earth 1. There have been several theories as to the identity of this black-suited Superman, but the most horrifying possibility is that he is the Arrowverse version of Superboy Prime – a Clark Kent from the comics who went utterly mad after losing his Earth during a reality-altering battle.

Related: What Elseworlds Means For The Arrowverse & Batwoman

4. The Reverse Flash Returns

Perhaps the biggest surprise of the trailer was the brief scene showing that The Reverse Flash will be a part of Elseworlds as well. A quick clip reveals Tom Cavanagh wearing the Reverse Flash costume, taking a swing at Stephen Amell in The Flash costume. The inclusion of Eobard Thawne is particularly interesting given the revelations at the end of The Flash‘s mid-season finale.

3. Deathstroke Returns?

One quick shot reveals a man fighting a group of soldiers, with a sword in one hand and a gun in the other.  Though the man lacks a certain distinctive eye-patch and the actor doesn’t look like Manu Bennett, the orange and blue armor he’s wearing suggest that he’s an alternate-Earth version of Deathstroke or one of Slade Wilson’s sons, following in his footsteps. One big question to consider: if this man is Deathstroke, which side he will be fighting on?

2. A Frightened Killer Frost

Killer Frost is known for being cool under pressure (pun very much intended.) Whenever the composure of the infamous ice queen is broken, you know things are bad. While we know big things are bound to happen as a result of Elseworlds, this quick reaction shot of a clearly terrified Killer Frost speaks volumes as to just how world-shaking this event will be.

1. Doctor Destiny Revealed

The penultimate scene of the trailer reveals a figure clad in strange armor that lights up with a golden glow, as The Monitor says “Show them what a real god can do.” The mask of the armored suit has a distinctive skull design that is quite disturbing and horrifying. This would seem to confirm earlier speculations that Dr. John Deegan is meant to be the Arrowverse version of the classic Justice League villain Doctor Destiny, who wore a skull mask, possessed similar powers to alter reality and whose real name was Dr. John Dee.

More: Every Reveal From The Arrowverse Elseworlds Crossover Set Photos



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2018-12-05 01:12:15

Arrowverse Elseworlds Poster: The Heroes Team Up With Batwoman

The heroes of the Arrowverse team up with Batwoman in a brand-new poster for this year’s “Elseworlds” crossover event. This will mark the third time the heroes have banded together, outside of guest appearances in each other’s shows. They previously joined forces to halt an alien invasion and defeat fascist doppelgängers in 2016 and 2017, respectively. Although the Waverider crew from Legends of Tomorrow will not feature this year, opting instead for its own crossover, it promises to be their biggest and strangest collective outing yet.

Not only will “Elseworlds” feature the established stars of Arrow, The Flash, and Supergirl, it’ll also mark the first appearance of Batwoman. This incarnation will be played by Ruby Rose, with the episodes serving as a back-door pilot for a standalone Batwoman series. As well as Kate Kane and her alter-ego, the superhero team-up will also see the debut of the Monitor and the return of Tyler Hoechlin’s Superman, who fans will get to see don his iconic black suit. Details for the episode remain under wraps, though the official synopsis confirmed a Barry and Oliver body swap, whilst a recent teaser seemingly revealed destruction of Earth 90, the aptly named home of the 1990’s Flash, Jay Garrick.

Related: Elseworlds is Destroying the Reality of the 1990 Flash TV Show

Unveiled on the official Twitter page for Supergirl, the new poster features the heroes facing down an unseen threat on a war-torn world. There is no sign of Garrick his time around, but Batwoman features front and center alongside the core trinity. Behind them, fans get glimpses of Felicity Smoak, the new Lois Lane, and both versions of Superman – seemingly confirming them as separate entities rather than one and the same. Given the multidimensional nature of the episodes, it remains unclear on which Earth the showdown is taking place. Regardless, the poster teases an epic scale of action and stakes.

Although the casting of Rose proved controversial to some, it was mostly met with a wave of praise. Excitement has only grown in recent weeks, following the release of behind the scenes photos and footage of the character in action. Though many will remain eager to see Batman himself show up, the fact that the history of Gotham will feature is a huge, exciting step forward for the show, especially if teases of The Joker pay off. As well as a comics-accurate costume, the arrival of the character also marks another step forward in the representation of LGBT characters and heroes.

Equally exciting is the fact that the poster continues this year’s trend of leaving a full look at the villain just out of fans’ reach. Although the teaser suggested that Monitor would play a more villainous role, the poster depicted him aligned with the heroes. While he may start off as an antagonist, he’ll clearly switch sides or define himself as having heroic intentions at some stage.

Instead, the role of the main villain will go to Jeremy Davies. Considered as crazy as his patients at Arkham Asylum, Davies will play Dr. John Deegan. Given that no reference to a Dr. Deegan exists in the realm of DC, and the fact he feels too small scale to be a threat to the multiverse, the character has been the subject of much speculation. While Arkham is known for its deranged doctors – including Jonathan Crane and Hugo Strange – the idea of Doctor Destiny sounds more plausible, especially given the reversal of destinies experienced by Oliver and Barry. Whatever the case, however, the poster will no doubt leave fans even more excited to see Batwoman join the heroes in dealing with and punching the threat head-on.

More: Elseworlds: 7 Possible Reasons For Superman’s Black Suit (And 3 Unlikely Ones)

Arrowverse’s “Elseworlds” event begins with The Flash on Sunday, December 9 at 8 pm ET, continues with Arrow on Monday at 8 pm ET and concludes with Supergirl on Tuesday at 8 pm ET.

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2018-12-04 05:12:09

20 DC Characters Who Can Be In James Gunn’s Suicide Squad (And Who Should Play Them)

James Gunn may be off the Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 project after being fired by Disney for some controversial tweets surfaced from long ago, but not only has he apologized and insisted that he’s a much different person than he was at that period in his life; he’s reportedly also getting another stab at creating a comic adaptation with the next Suicide Squad film.

While Marvel fans mourn the loss of the man behind some of the best movies in the MCU, it’s quite possible that Gunn will give the DC universe the boost it desperately needs to really compete with Marvel.

While we’ll have to wait and see what the actual film brings to the party, we have plenty of time to speculate about what its plot might be, what kind of tone to expect and above all, which characters might be included and who might be cast in those roles. While many of us are hoping to see some members of the Squad from the first film return, we’re also crossing our fingers, wishing for a chance to meet more members who weren’t included in the first movie. There’s really an endless amount of speculation to enjoy here and many fans have already photoshopped their choices for the best portrayals of characters audiences have loved for decades.

Casting for these iconic personalities won’t be an easy task, but here are 20 DC Characters Who Can Be In James Gunn’s Suicide Squad (And Who Should Play Them).

20 Christina Ricci As Harley Quinn

Let’s be honest: Margot Robbie is a sure-in for Harley Quinn at this point. The star surprised many fans while proving others right with her incredible performance as the psychiatrist turned psychopath. Ensuring that Quinn not only shone as the premiere talent in a film with its problems, but that she would endure for her own film afterward, Robbie is a fan favorite, through and through.

We could definitely see this version of Harley in a Gunn movie.

If for some reason Robbie had to back out of the project, as much as it would pain fans, some have taken to casting other ideas for actresses who could play Harleen Quinzel. Artist D3SIGNMILTIA’s piece depicts an interesting version of the character that might work well with Christina Ricci.

19 Joaquin Phoenix As The Joker

We’ve seen so many incarnations of The Joker over the years that it’s getting more and more difficult to choose the perfect person to play an updated version of Batman’s most notorious foe. Whether or not he’ll be in the next Suicide Squad film is unclear. Who can measure up to Jack Nicholson’s chilling Joker and Heath Ledger’s perfect monster?

Joaquin Phoenix, currently starring in Todd Phillips’ solo Joker, is certainly one candidate. Phoenix, who’s also utilized some unorthodox acting methods in the past, might give us a bit more grave swagger as the criminal mastermind. His ongoing presence in the DCEU will likely depend on the success of Joker, due out in October 2019.

18 Neil Patrick Harris As The Riddler

Everyone’s favorite child doctor has grown up to become a much beloved singer, showman, and nemesis of the Baudelaire children. Neil Patrick Harris shines in just about everything he’s in, so including him in the next installment of Suicide Squad makes perfect sense.

Harris as the Riddler is pure gold.

He’s got the chops to bring the perfect blend of humor and intelligence that the Riddler needs to truly succeed, which might hopefully replace the slapstick Riddler we got in Batman Forever years ago. Harris isn’t everyone’s favorite for the Riddler, though; stay tuned for more artist manipulations involving the Riddler later.

17 Manu Bennett As Deathstroke

Given the fact that the Arrowverse and TV adaptations of DC stories have proven so successful, it makes sense to borrow from that character pool to not only connect the universe but to help ensure the success of Suicide Squad 2. If Gunn and company are planning on including Deathstroke in the sequel, we think Manu Bennet would be a clear choice for the character.

While some fans speculate that Joe Manganiello will play the part, since he is Mr. Wilson in Justice League and has announced that he’s working on three more films featuring the character, his involvement in Suicide Squad 2 remains speculation at this point. Many believe that Deathstroke will indeed be a primary villain in the film, and Bennet has already proven that he would do the character justice.

16 Sophie Turner As Oracle

Lots of fans are imagining Marvel actors in DC roles, which is pretty delightful for those of us who Make Ours Marvel and DC. Sophie Turner, who gave us the Jean Grey that we were waiting for in X-Men: Apocalypse and is set to reprise the role in Dark Phoenix, would also make an excellent Oracle.

Barbara Gordon’s time as Oracle has included a gig as tech support for the Suicide Squad.

With Ruby Rose’s debut as Batwoman and a Batgirl movie announced, the inclusion of Oracle could provide some timeline intrigue. Plus, after decades of Batman saturation, this much Bat-women power would be so much fun.

15 Oprah Winfrey As Amanda Waller

Viola Davis was a pretty stellar Amanda Waller, which comes as no surprise to anyone who has ever seen Viola Davis in anything. Davis could read a grocery list and deserve an Oscar. That said, Kode Logic has imagined what Oprah might bring to the role and we have to say that it looks impressive. Firm, ruthless and beautiful, Oprah’s Waller seems to give the character a bit more experience points, which are conveyed in that hard gaze.

Davis has said that she loved playing Amanda Waller, who is aligned so well with her character Annalise Keating in the hit TV drama How to Get Away with Murder in many ways, but how much fun would it be to see Oprah bend the rules?

14 Will Smith As Deadshot

You don’t mess with what works, and Will Smith certainly worked as Deadshot in the original Suicide Squad. He did so well, in fact, that plenty of people thought that he deserved his own film and said that they’d have watched Suicide Squad again if it only starred Smith. This really isn’t a surprise, given Smith’s star power, and it’s been announced that he’s returning to the franchise in the role again.

It’s a good thing that we have some time before the movie’s released, too, since Smith is set to star in Bad Boys for Life and Bright 2 around the same time. Smith’s got three films releasing in 2019 alone, and while one is only a vocal role, he’s definitely going to be busy for the next couple of years.

13 Jeffrey Dean Morgan As Batman

Utter the words “Jeffrey Dean Morgan” in the same sentence as “The Batman” and you’re bound to get a room full of excited fans. He’s absolutely perfect for Wayne in an adaptation of something like Batman Beyond, but we could definitely see him as the Batman in just about any adaptation of the series, and DeviantArt user evelius has given us some visual art to really picture the idea.

Morgan has the darkness and the voice necessary for Batman to match this ragtag team of violent convicts.

While Bale and Affleck had their time in the cowl, it’s time for a new man behind the mask. Why not Negan?

12 Rila Fukushima As Katana

While Katana was featured in the first Suicide Squad film, most people believe her role was too small to really critique or appreciate. Japanese-American actress Karen Fukuhara wasn’t bad in the role; she just didn’t get much to do.

Adding Rila Fukushima in the second movie might lend Katana some traction given that she already portrays the character in the Arrowverse.

While Fukuhara, who is set to play Glimmer in the new She-Ra and the Princesses of Power TV series, is rumored to be reprising the role, Fukushima, star of last year’s Ghost in the Shell, was also fantastic as Yukio in The Wolverine, which would give us another fun link between the DC and Marvel universes.

11 Emma Stone As Poison Ivy

Who doesn’t love quirky, smart, and funny Emma Stone? The actress would be perfect for an updated role as Poison Ivy following Uma Thurman’s beautiful but wonky portrayal of Pamela Isley. One of BossLogic’s many creative manipulations, this artwork features Stone as the iconic plant-loving villain and it’s pretty impressive.

We already know that Ivy will be a big part of the upcoming Gotham City Sirens film, which will also feature Harley Quinn and Catwoman at its heart, so why not include her in the Suicide Squad movie as well? There are several other cool artist manipulations of actresses who might be great in the role, such as Jessica Chastain, so it’s going to be a tough one to cast.

10 Kristen Wiig As Cheetah

Many of us can’t stop celebrating Kristen Wiig being cast as Cheetah in Wonder Woman 1984. The strongest thing the DC movies have going for it right now is all the incredible female characters, most notably Harley Quinn and Wonder Woman, and we can’t wait to see where Aquaman takes us. If all goes well it would make perfect sense to include Wiig in Suicide Squad 2, especially since weaving in characters from multiple films would help provide better continuity for the DCEU.

Wiig is funny, smart, and beautiful, and we think she’s going to make an excellent foe for Wonder Woman.

In that case, her inclusion in another movie would also be fantastic to see.

9 Nathalie Emmanuelle As Vixen

DeviantArt artist farrou has created some truly amazing fanart of DC characters, and one of them, which features Nathalie Emmanuelle as Vixen, makes us believers. While we’re not sure if Emmanuelle has a Tantu Totem, we’re pretty sure she could make it work if Gunn and co. gave her one. The actress, best known for her role as Missandei on HBO’s Game of Thrones, is definitely ready for a a super suit and action in a big movie like this.

Then again, Jada Pinkett Smith has expressed interest in the role of Vixen, which would not only be interesting due to her husband’s presence in the movie but also due to her previous DC role as Fish Mooney in the TV series Gotham. Both actresses would be well-cast for the movie.

8 Jake Gyllenhaal As The Riddler

Do we really need the Riddler to come out and play in Suicide Squad 2? After the weirdness of Batman Forever and the sinister developments of Gotham, perhaps it’s time to reinvent the villain. Jake Gyllenhaal makes sense to play the villain not only because he was David Goyer’s original choice to play Batman in the Christopher Nolan movies, but because this fanart made by Vaskoho is something to behold.

While there are several people who could pull off the role, we think Donnie Darko has a fighting chance.

Fans point out that there were some Riddler Easter eggs in the Batman v Superman movie, so it’s possible that we’ll see The Riddler on film someday.

7 Dave Bautista As Bane

Can we all agree that, no matter the context, Dave Bautista must appear in Suicide Squad 2? Not only has the Drax actor delighted us all with his hilarious yet poignant portrayal in the Guardians of the Galaxy series, but he’s also publicly stated that he supports Gunn and wants to be involved in his next project.

We’re pretty sure any role could be molded to make room for such a beloved actor, but as as BossLogic has pointed out, he’d make an excellent Bane. After having two Banes that didn’t work so well in the Batman universe, we could definitely use a fresh face for the role. If he’s not Bane, Bautista would make a fantastic Solomon Grundy, too. We’re not too picky on this one.

6 Michael K. Williams As Black Manta

Could Black Manta make an appearance in Suicide Squad 2? It’s too early to rule anything out and many fans think he’d make a good inclusion, particularly following the Aquaman movie. While the majority of his screen time might simply have his head shrouded in a big bubble, his casting would be nonetheless important. Artist diamondking13 suggests actor Michael K. Williams for the job and we love the idea.

It would be cool to see how Gunn and co, would update the suit for a more modern, movie-friendly look.

Famous for his critically acclaimed roles in The Wire and Boardwalk Empire, Williams was just cast in Jordan Peele and Misha Green’s Lovecraft Country, but Suicide Squad 2 is far enough in the future to give him time for both gigs.

5 Bill Skarsgård As The Joker

This one is a no-brainer. Many of us just don’t care to see Jared Leto return as The Joker and it’s quite possible that The Joker won’t even see a second of footage in the second film. While we’d all probably be okay with that, if a new Joker is cast, Bill Skarsgård is a fantastic choice.

Skarsgård is hot right now following his success as Pennywise in the new adaptation of Stephen King’s It. He also played a less troubling character in Castle Rock over the summer, proving his mettle yet again in King’s world. Considered one of the good things to come out of Netfix’s Hemlock Grove, Skarsgård could probably do the Joker justice, as artist aikoaiham has shown.

4 Teresa Palmer As Killer Frost

After witnessing Killer Frost in the Arrowverse, many fans are calling for her inclusion in Suicide Squad 2. DeviantArt creator farrou has imagined what it might look like if Teresa Palmer played the villain and it’s a pretty spot-on representation.

The Australian actress is no stranger to action movies and could do well in the role.

Kristin Bauer van Straten has already voiced Killer Frost in the animated Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, while Danica McKellar voices her in Lego DC Superhero Girls. She’s also been in 2009’s Public Enemies animated feature between Batman and Superman, but she’s never been in a live action movie before. Danielle Panabaker portrays the character in The Flash, but she hasn’t made a film in a few years.

3 Jon Bernthal as Rick Flag

Jon Bernthal is another actor already present in the MCU, portraying the most accurate and adept version of the Punisher we could ever hope for, so tossing the talented actor into the DC mix would just be plain fun. It’s not that Joel Kinneman was terrible as Rick Flag, and he’s done a great job standing up for the original film and its purpose, but Jon Bernthal would just be better.

The skill Bernthal has in striking that tricky sweet spot between ruthlessness and gravitas while still being a compelling, empathetic human being isn’t something anyone can do. Artist Riku7kun shows us what Bernthal as Flag might look like. It’s a little bare in comparison to Kinneman’s look, but that might actually work with Bernthal.

2 Josh Gad As The Penguin

It’s no secret that Josh Gad wants the role of The Penguin, having pushed for it himself in social media, and fans are clamoring for the opportunity to see the voice of the snowman, Olaf, and Gaston’s buddy LaFou in a much more sinister role.

Whether or not Gad will show up in The Batman remains to be seen but he definitely has the flippers to play the beloved villain.

BossLogic has given us some art imagining what he might look like in the role and it can only get better from here. In March, Gad started hilariously trolling Matt Reeves on Twitter, sending him animated penguin GIFs and hinting at what he could bring to the Batman franchise.

1 Margot Robbie As Harley Quinn

It’s an obvious inclusion, but it’s necessary. While the original Suicide Squad, hyped up to be the most incredible DC movie of all time, had plenty of problems, most fans and critics agree that the shining star of the whole production was Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. Robbie’s portrayal was everything we hoped for– brutal, nuanced, and a delicate balance between her joker obsession and Harley coming into her own person without being too over-the-top.

Who isn’t excited to see Robbie return as Harley in theBirds Of Prey adaptation featuring the awesome women of DC, which is so ardently anticipated that it pushed Suicide 2 to the back burner? After this much love, Robbie has to be in this universe.

Who do you most want to see in a new Suicide Squad movie? Let us know in the comments!





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2018-10-11 02:10:45 – Sara Schmidt

The Flash Premiere Had The Arrowverse’s First Batwoman Easter Egg

The fifth season premiere of The Flash surprised fans by making the first official reference to the existence of Batwoman, months ahead of her first scheduled appearance during the annual Arrowverse crossover event this winter. The episode also dropped a number of references to the classic comic book mini-series Crisis On Infinite Earths, which has been hinted as an eventual occurrence in the future of the Arrowverse.

Batwoman’s arrival in the Arrowverse was first announced shortly before San Diego Comic Con 2018, when the news broke that The CW was considering developing a television series based around Kate Kane, a cousin of Bruce Wayne who unintentionally followed in his footsteps when she became a vigilante. It was later confirmed that not only was The CW developing the series, but they intended to introduce Kate Kane as part of Elseworlds – the next annual Arrowverse crossover event. Ruby Rose, of Orange Is The New Black fame, was ultimately cast in the role of Kate Kane.

Related: First Look At Ruby Rose In Costume As Batwoman In Arrowverse Crossover

The nod to Batwoman came near the end of the third segment of “Nora.” The action of the episode centered around Nora West-Allen, the future daughter of Barry Allen and Iris West-Allen, accidentally traveling back in time to before she was born and meeting her parents shortly after they got married. Barry quickly realized something was up when Nora seemed more concerned about spending time with him than doing the same with Iris and asked Nora, point blank, if that had anything to do his disappearance during a crisis in 2024, which he had read about in a future newspaper. Nora responded by showing Barry a newspaper from her time – the year 2049 – and confirming that he never returned home and that she grew up without a father.

Published 25 years to the day after the original article from the future, which was first seen in the first episode of The Flash, the 2049 article discusses the same crisis, but with a bit more detail. The 2024 article mentioned The Flash disappearing while fighting alongside Green Arrow, The Atom, and Hawkgirl. The 2049 article lists a larger number of heroes being involved in the battle, including Batwoman. The article says:

“But in the years following the crisis, accounts only grew more contradictory. Some eyewitnesses remember dozens of other heroes present, including Green Arrow, Batwoman, and Elongated Man. Others remember heroes thought lost in time, like The Atom, or from other worlds, like Supergirl. Some even contend they saw Reverse-Flash leading an army of ‘shadow demons’.”

It is interesting to note that Batwoman is mentioned in the same sentence as Green Arrow and Elongated Man – two heroes who frequently fight alongside The Flash on Earth-One. Until now, it had not been confirmed what Earth in the Arrowverse Kate Kane would be based on, though most assumed she would be from Earth 38 – the same Earth as Supergirl – as that would make it easier for the two to team-up in the future, in the same way that Batman and Superman frequently join forces in the comics. The wording of the article would suggest, however, that Kate Kane will be from Earth-One.

The mention of Reverse-Flash leading an army of shadow demons is another point of interest, given that shadow demons were the main mooks of The Anti-Monitor – the villain of the Crisis On Infinite Earths mini-series, where The Flash seemingly died saving the multiverse. The article also makes mention of The Psycho Pirate – another super-villain who had a major role in the events of The Crisis. It has long been suspected that the Arrowverse would eventually reenact Crisis On Infinite Earths in live-action and this latest bit of news about Batwoman from The Flash premiere seems to make that probability all the more certain.

More: The Flash Fixes Plot Hole By Secretly Changing Arrowverse History



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2018-10-10 07:10:43 – Matt Morrison

The Flash Confirms [SPOILER] Still Happens In Barry’s Future

Warning! SPOILERS for The Flash season 5 premiere ahead!

The Flash season 5 premiere just revealed the full impact of the Crisis of 2024 – the future event from which comes the newspaper headline, “Flash Missing, Vanishes in Crisis” – and it’s not good.

As far back as season 1, we’ve known thanks to the future edition of The Central City Citizen stored in Gideon’s archive that come April 25th, 2024, The Flash would disappear. Some details have changed with the various timeline shake-ups, but that fact remains the same – during a battle with the Reverse-Flash, Barry disappears. We also know that when they disappear they actually travel back to March 18th, 2000, where the Reverse-Flash attempts to kill a young Barry but instead kills his mother. The Reverse-Flash then tries returning to his own time but can’t because he’s been disconnected from the Speed Force, and what follows leads to season 1 of the show.

Related: The Flash Fixes Plot Hole By Secretly Changing Arrowverse History

As for The Flash, it’s been assumed that after saving his past self, but not his mother, Barry returns to 2024 to face whatever new timeline awaits him. But as we learn in tonight’s season 5 premiere, that isn’t at all what happens. Nora, Barry’s daughter from the future, shares with 2018’s Barry a newspaper headline dated April 25th, 2049 which reads: “25 Years Later – Flash Still Missing.” So The Flash did not return home after chasing the Reverse-Flash to 2000, and by the time Nora travels to the past to spy on her parents, he has yet to return.

Nora’s behavior makes a lot of sense now that we know her father has been missing since she was a toddler. All throughout the premiere, she’s spouting off factoids she learned by studying every single one of his adventures, and when it comes time for their first attempt at sending her back to the future, she hugs Barry like she’s never going to see him again. Nora has clearly grown up not knowing her father so she’s spent a lot of time trying to learn everything she can about him. It’s why she travels back in time – to see her dad in action as The Flash. Of course, with traveling back in time comes the risk of changing the future – something Nora may have already done.

But the more distressing news is what happens to The Flash of the future? Why after following the Reverse-Flash to the year 2000 did he not return for at least another 25 years? The Flash season 5 is absolutely going to explore this, possibly even flashing-forward to that future date and showing what really went on – which, according to Iris’ original article, should see The Flash teaming up with Green Arrow, The Atom, and Hawkgirl to fight the Reverse-Flash as well as the ominous red skies and the immense destruction of Central City.

What The Flash season 5 may also do is explore how it is the future Flash comes back. We know that he must return because in 2056, a future Barry sends a message to Rip Hunter in 2016 warning him of Savitar. So he isn’t gone forever, just a lot longer than we initially thought. Nora’s newspaper has Barry gone for 25 years, and that isn’t exact but it’s very close to how long Barry is gone in the comics after Crisis on Infinite Earths – possibly DC Comics’ most famous storyline and in where The Flash sacrifices himself to save the world. He returns 23 years later in Final Crisis, revealing he had been stuck in the Speed Force. The CW’s The Flash has already done the whole ‘stuck in the Speed Force’ thing, so hopefully it won’t repeat itself, but it does appear as if they are preparing for The Flash of the future to finally make his return after being gone for a quarter-century.

Next: The Flash Season 5: New Cast & Character Guide

The Flash season 5 continues next Tuesday with ‘Blocked’ at 8pm/7c on The CW.



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2018-10-09 07:10:13 – Sarah Moran

New York Comic-Con: 26 Biggest Announcements (And 4 Weirdest Possibilities)

It might not be as big as San Diego Comic-Con, but New York’s pop culture celebration is just as eventful. This year’s New York Comic-Con was littered with scoops. Whether it’s juicy rumors or brand new trailers, there was plenty to see and talk about. Of course, the convention weekend can get a bit overwhelming — the onslaught of news, panels, and footage seems endless. Thankfully, we’ve collected all of this biggest topics for those of you who are lost amidst all of the comic book news.

For this list, we’re going to cover the most important stories of this year’s New York Comic-Con, including some big ones that just happened to drop during the week rather than at the convention itself. The list will even feature a few big rumors that have come out of the con for some good measure — or for those of you who just like some gossip. Even those who attended the convention might have missed some of the major stories, so use this as your post-NYCC guide to recap the weekend as things begin to wind down.

We know it’s difficult to keep track of all this news, especially after the convention weekend. This list should make things a bit easier. Even if you didn’t attend, the bombardment of news is probably still filling your news feed. So after you’re finished watching trailers all day and unpacking your NYCC hauls, settle in and we’ll break everything down for you.

Here are the 26 Biggest Announcements From NYCC (And 4 Weirdest Possibilities).

30 Aquaman’s New/Old Armor

The new Aquaman trailer was the highlight of the weekend for many. It revealed a surprising amount of footage — some would say too much. The extended look — roughly five minutes long — featured a plenty of unseen footage.

Audiences were treated to a sequence involving Arthur and Mera in desert ruins, another look at Atlantis, and even an extended action sequence between the two leads as they are chased by Black Manta. Perhaps the biggest spoiler in the trailer was the reveal of Aquaman’s iconic orange and green outfit.

29 Hellboy First Look

While no footage from the Hellboy panel has been released to the public, convention-goers were treated to a poster reveal and an exclusive first look at the upcoming film.

The panel footage wooed many fans in attendance and featured a tone that balanced the movie’s violence and gore with humor. It saw Hellboy receive his iconic handgun and show off the Hand of Doom, and it highlighted his especially shaky relationship with his ally Ben Daimio.

The trailer’s money shot had Hellboy in all-out demon mode, rising out of a pit sporting a flaming sword and crown.

Hopefully it won’t be long before this footage is released to the public.

28 Bullseye in Daredevil Season 3

Daredevil’s new trailers suggest a return to the grounded crime-noir tones of the first season with some big new developments. The first trailer reveals that not only is Kingpin out of prison, but he appears to design a smear campaign to turn New York against Daredevil.

One of the ways this may be happening is through a Daredevil impostor, who is none other than the hero’s most famous villain, Bullseye. Bullseye is the subject of the second new trailer, exploring his life as a government agent-turned-assassin under the employ of Kingpin.

27 Titans Is Grittier Than The DCEU

Titans has already received flak for the marketing’s seriously dark tone. Now, after the first two episodes were screened for viewers at NYCC, it is getting the same criticism.

Not only does Titans sport the DCEU’s same dark tone, but apparently the show is even more violent than the films.

The footage featuring Robin displayed some extremely violent and lethal combat, complete with the same amount of gore and disrespect for human life one might find in — well, anything but a comic book show. With that said, the show did receive a warm reception from the audience, so maybe Titans has potential after all.

26 Possibility — Will Rick Grimes Survive?

The Walking Dead is losing its lead character this season, with the confirmed departure of Rick Grimes actor Andrew Lincoln. His impending exit has been talked about for months now, but fans still don’t know how his character will be written out of the show. In a new rumor, it seems that Rick Grimes might meet a brutal end.

In an interview with Entertainment Tonight, Andrew Lincoln joked that he might not “make it through the credits sequence” teasing Rick’s potential demise. Fans don’t want to say goodbye to Rick, but it will be even harder to do so if he is torn apart by walkers. Can’t somebody get a happy ending on this show?

25 Spock On Star Trek: Discovery

Star Trek fans weren’t left out of the fun this year, with a new trailer for season two of Star Trek: Discovery. The trailer promises a ride that might be just as intense as the first season, with plenty of action, character beats, and visuals so gorgeous that one would think the show had the budget of a feature-length film.

Amidst the sizzle of the trailer is a big reveal — the inclusion of a young, bearded Spock.

The character is supposedly connected to the “Red Angel” visions that Burnham is experiencing, though details on his appearance in the season are still under wraps.

24 First 35 minutes of new Spider-Man movie

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is still a few months out but panel attendees were treated to the first 35 minutes — and apparently what they saw was incredible. Reactions to the NYCC footage is overwhelmingly positive, citing the stylish animation and and lighthearted tone as some of the film’s standout elements. These early reactions come off the back of a new trailer for the film, which shows off several more of the alternate universe versions of Spider-Man.

Of course, this was only the first 35 minutes. Much of the movie is still under wraps and it has a long road ahead of it, being only one of many tentpole releases hitting theaters this December.

23 Deadly Class is coming in 2019

SYFY’s adaptation of the critically acclaimed Deadly Class comic series made a big showing this year. Between the close collaboration with series writer Rick Remender, the promise of intense action, and the Russo brothers at the helm (Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Avengers Infinity War), this long-awaited series has the potential to be a household name.

Not only does the show seem like a contender for the “next big thing” in comic book television, but it finally has a release date.

This was revealed to be January 16 in a new trailer that focuses on the coming-of-age aspect of the anarchic action series.

22 Star Wars’ The Mandalorian

The first image of Jon Favreau’s live-action Star Wars series was released on Thursday, getting fans hyped for the first real TV show in a galaxy far far away. The photo was released alongside new details about the show, namely its title: The Mandalorian.

Set between Return of the Jedi and The Force AwakensThe Mandalorian centers on a warrior from Mandalore travelling across the galaxy. The title character wears the iconic armor that the planet is known for — a costume shared by fan-favorite character Boba Fett. Plenty remains unknown about the series, though it is set to premiere on Disney’s upcoming streaming service.

21 Possibility — Kingpin and Spider-Man Crossover

Marvel fans will rejoice if this rumor comes true — during all of the Daredevil buzz over the convention weekend, Vincent D’Onofrio made a very reassuring tweet.

When a fan tweeted that the world will never see the him as Kingpin in an MCU film, D’Onofrio responded with “Who says?”

Marvel’s Netflix shows have been especially vague in their references to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but having Kingpin show up in a Tom Holland Spider-Man film would be the perfect connection. The chances are slim, but at least there’s hope.

20 Bane On Gotham

Gotham‘s fifth and final season was revealed in a trailer this weekend, promising quite the grand finale. The trailer hints that Gotham will be adapting the classic No Man’s Land comic book story this season, and also teased another big bad.

Actor Shane West has been cast as Bane, one of Batman’s greatest adversaries and one of the only major rogues that the show hasn’t yet adapted. Bane’s appearance so early in Bruce Wayne’s life has been met with mixed reactions among fans, but at least that suggests a bombastic end to the pre-Batman series.

19 The X-Men Go To Space

New York Comic-Con got an extended look at X-Men: Dark Phoenix, despite being subject to what seems like endless delays. The exclusive footage, which still has not been revealed to the public, gave fans a look at the fully-formed X-Men team and their upcoming cosmic adventure.

Highlights of the footage included an argument between Mystique and Professor X, Jean Grey absorbing a solar flare, and the team going on a rescue mission in space.

While most of the movie likely takes place on Earth, it’s nice to know that the movies aren’t above digging into the spacebound shenanigans that the comics do.

18 Penny from The Big Bang Theory is Harley Quinn

Among the many DC Universe announcements this weekend was the trailer for the Harley Quinn animated series, which has taken many fans by surprise. The show looks like a quirky adult comedy with Harley breaking the fourth wall and using foul language.

The show is already being compared to the likes of Deadpool, with positive reactions coming out of NYCC. It also features a great cast, with Kaley Cuoco, Alan Tudyk, Ron Funches, JB Smoove, and Wanda Sykes among the voice talent. It is set to release late in 2019 on the DC Universe streaming service.

17 Umbrella Academy’s Big Debut

Netflix’s adaptation of Gerard Way’s superhero darling The Umbrella Academy came to play during NYCC, with a handful of new images and even a trailer exclusive to the folks at Comic-Con. An Umbrella Academy movie has been in the works for many years, but after the switch to television and some time in development freefall, it finally seems right around the corner.

The series — which consists of a dysfunctional family of superheroes — seems to be maintaining its gothic comic book aesthetic.

The show looks like surreal than its counterpart on the pages, but it already has people excited. Umbrella Academy hits Netflix on February 15, 2019.

16 Doctor Who First Reactions

Those who attended the Doctor Who panel were in for quite the event. The attendees got to see the premiere of the new season as well as have an in-depth talk with the season’s Doctor, Jodie Whittaker. The audience’s response to the episode was ecstatic to say the least, and that sentiment seems to be shared by viewers around the world.

Not only was the show a critical hit, but its viewer ratings were record-breaking. The premiere episode “The Woman Who Fell to Earth” peaked at 9 million viewers, which the highest the show has ever had! Sounds like the new season of Doctor Who is off to a fantastic start.

15 Odin’s true form in American Gods season 2

Last year’s adaptation of Neil Gaiman’s American Gods was a massive hit and the trailer for the new season looks just as enticing.  Shadow Moon and Mr. Wednesday are back on their surreal fantasy roadtrip, accompanied by even more colorful characters and bizarre, unsettling visuals.

The footage teases a war between Mr. Wednesday and Mr. World, with an especially striking shot of Wednesday in his true form: Odin. 

American Gods is a trippy, gorgeous series that many may have missed last year, and with such a great-looking sequel on the way, now might be the time to go back and binge. The second seasons drops in 2019.

14 Possibility — Sabrina/Riverdale Crossover

A full trailer for Chilling Adventures of Sabrina hit the web early last week, revealing a spooky-yet-fun adaptation of the comics, as well as a revival of the late ’90s sitcom. Sadly, Archie fans will be disappointed to hear that Sabrina is not currently attached to the hit CW series, Riverdale.

While the Sabrina was originally set to appear on the CW as Riverdale’s companion show (much like CW’s Arrowverse), the move to Netflix seems to have stifled the idea. Still, Sabrina showrunner Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa is holding out hope for a potential crossovers so that the original plan can come to fruition.

13 George R. R. Martin’s new show

Those of you eagerly awaiting Game of Thrones… well, we don’t have any good news for you. But, if you want more content from the mind of George R.R. Martin, an adaptation of his book Nightflyers has received a new trailer and a first-episode premiere at New York Comic-Con.

The sci-fi thriller follows a crew they struggle to survive on their space mission.

Not everything is as it seems on the vessel, as the show promises some solid horror scares as well as a character-driven story. The show doesn’t officially premiere until December 2nd, but at least sci-fi horror fans have something to look forward to.

12 She-Ra And The Princesses’ LGBT rep

Dreamworks Animation has been launching hit after hit lately — between shows like Trollhunters and Voltron: Legendary Defender, their work has earned them much success on Netflix. The newest series from the studio, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, dropped a poster and teaser trailer at New York Comic-Con that looks like promising fun for young viewers.

The reboot of the ’80s television show sports new cartoony visuals, witty humor, and a diverse cast of characters — even including a same gender couple. While the show’s initial reveal was met with some backlash, the trailer seems infectiously pleasant and fun.

11 Matt Bomer stars in DC’s Doom Patrol

While Titans got plenty of attention at NYCC, the next DC Universe original series got a brief first look. Doom Patrol is set to release next spring, but panel attendees were show some exclusive photos of Brendan Fraser’s character, Robotman. Fraser appeared at the panel and talked through the first look.

Seeing as Doom Patrol is currently filming, it shouldn’t be long before official footage hits the web.

The Robotman design look remarkably accurate to the comics, which has gotten many fans even more excited for the obscure property’s TV adaptation. Supplementing this news was the casting of Matt Bomer as Negative Man — another big name

10 The Spawn Trilogy

Fans hoping for a Spawn trailer at NYCC were out of luck this weekend, but series creator Todd McFarlane spoke at length about his plans for the newly rebooted movie. McFarlane explained that he envisions an ambitious trilogy of Spawn movies, with each one visually and tonally distinct from the last.

The first film might be described as a kind of existential horror-superhero film, with characters wondering if what they see is even real. While the project is still a ways off, the Jamie Foxx-led vehicle is going to emphasize the dark tones of the book with a hard R-rating, as well as cater to the now-older readers of the comic series.

9 DC Universe Streaming Plans

DC Comics and Warner Bros wanted to spotlight their DC Universe streaming service at this year’s NYCC, several small news breaks on he various related properties. Not only did they show footage of Titans, Doom Patrol, and Harley Quinn, but they also revealed the service’s content release schedule over the coming year.

While no specific dates were given, the timeline depicts various release windows for the service’s different original series.

While Young Justice: Outsiders seems to have been split into two parts, Doom Patrol will drop next spring followed by Swamp Thing in the summer, with both Stargirl and Harley Quinn dropping next fall.

8 Pet Sematary First Look

Horror fans might not have had much to talk about at Comic-Con, but during the convention some promo images dropped for the reboot of a Stephen King classic. The first images of the Pet Sematary remake were released, featuring Jason Clarke, John Lithgow, and Amy Seimetz.

The best image of the bunch comes in the form of the Creed family cat, Church, looking meaner and mangier than ever.

While an evil cat may not be the scariest thing you’ll find in Pet Sematary, it’s a nice preview of the Stephen King spookiness to come, especially after the success of 2017’s It. Pet Sematary is set for release on April 5, 2019.

7 Runaways Season 2 Footage

A new trailer for the second season of Runaways shows that the series has moved way past high school drama, and further into superhero action territory. The trailer features the Runaways’ comic book hideout, huge action set-pieces, and plenty of superpowers to go around.

Highlights of the trailer include a kiss between Nico and Karolina, a battle on an airport runway, and a glimpse at Gert’s pet dinosaur Old Lace. The first season of the show was a quiet hit among the newer Marvel properties, but this season promises a much deeper dive into the superhero genre that fans of the series are have been waiting for.

6 How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World

One reveal snuck in towards the end of Comic-Con — a very short trailer for How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World. Although very brief, the trailer is made up of all-new footage.

The trailer consists of baby Hiccup in his father’s arms as he is told about the legendary world of dragons.

During his father’s narration, the titular Hidden World is given a brief tease as hundreds of dragons flutter across a cavernous landscape. It ends with a shot of Hiccup and Toothless overlooking a town covered in dragons. It’s not as extensive as the film’s last trailer, but it might hold fans over until the film’s release on February 22, 2019.

5 Good Omens Trailer

It’s a great year for Neil Gaiman lovers as they got not one, but two different Gaiman projects revealed at NYCC. First was the second season of American Gods, and now Amazon’s adaptation of Good Omens. 

The trailer for the new series pits Michael Sheen and David Tennant against each other as an angel and a demon who must join forces in order to prevent the apocalypse. The dark subject matter is contrasted by the show’s whimsical tone and David Tennant’s devilish charisma. It sets up what looks to be a very fun buddy comedy about he end of the world.

4 First 25 Minutes Of Peter Jackson’s Mortal Engines

Fans of director Peter Jackson were treated to the first 25 minutes of his next project, Mortal Engines, at this year’s New York Comic-Con. Mortal Engines is another expansive world, like the Tolkien material that Jackson has worked with before, but with a post-apocalyptic twist.

The most talked about elements of the footage were the massive scale of the world and the jaw-dropping visuals.

The Mortal Engines footage introduces viewers to Hester, a girl who lives in a world that was ravaged by the “60 Minute War” that destroyed civilization. Now the world consists of giant cities on wheels that fight each other. Audiences won’t see it for themselves until December 14.

3 The Boys Teaser Trailer

Amazon’s adaptation of Garth Ennis’s hyper-violent superhero comic The Boys has finally been revealed with a brief teaser trailer . The teaser features a public service announcement from Vought International, a company that facilitates the operation of the Seven, this world’s league of superheroes. At the end of the PSA, the titular Boys can be seen sitting on a couch, rudely gesturing to their televisions.

The Boys is already setting itself apart from the traditonal superhero fare, and with good reason — the series is about a team of people who keep out-of-control superheroes in check– by blackmailing them, stealing from them, and beating them up. It’s extremely adult-oriented and it already looks like fun.

2 Voltron Ends in December

The release date and synopsis for the eighth and final season of Voltron was revealed at New York Comic-Con, finally bringing the critically acclaimed Netflix series to a close.

The last season will feature the final battle between the Paladins and Witch Haggar.

A few promo images were released as well — one featuring the villain Honerva and another depicting the Voltron Paladins in a control room with Shiro commanding the gang in a background role. While no footage was shown at NYCC, the release date was confirmed to be December 14. The show’s final season will premiere on Netflix.

1 Possibility — Avengers 4 Titled “Avengers: Annihilation”

This rumor went viral during the weekend of NYCC — “Avengers: Annihilation” may or may not be the name of the still untitled Avengers 4. Speculation over the film’s name has driven fans mad in recent months, with “Annihilation” being yet another choice amidstthe rumored titles titles like “Avengers: Forever”, “Avengers: Endgame”, and “The Last Avenger”.

Annihilation comes from the name comic storyline of the same name, though it bears few similarities to the Infinity Gauntlet story that the films are adapting. Seriously, Marvel, just call it “Avengers: Assemble” and get it over with already. Don’t keep us waiting!

What announcements from New York Comic-Con excite you the most? Make sure to leave a comment before you go to share your thoughts!



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2018-10-08 07:10:26 – Jonathan Figueroa

Chris Klein Revealed as Cicada in First Flash Season 5 Image

New images from The Flash season 5 reveal the first proper look at the villain known as Cicada. Barry Allen’s (Grant Gustin) was turned upside down at the end of season 4 when he learned another speedster was in Central City. The purple lightning came from none other than his daughter Nora (Jessica Parker Kennedy), who had traveled back in time to be with her parents. While they try to figure out why she has arrived and if she can return to her rightful place in the timeline, The Flash has to deal with his latest threat.

Chris Klein was cast as David Hersch, aka Cicada, for The Flash season 5 earlier this year. His addition was announced at San Diego Comic-Con following the release of a trailer that teased the inclusion of the DC villain. As the marketing has moved into the final stages before the season 5 premiere this week, he had yet to be completely revealed – until now.

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The CW released official photos from season 5 episode 2, “Blocked”, and included in them are the first looks at Chris Klein’s Cicada. The Flash season 5 character breakdowns that first confirmed Cicada’s involvement described him as a “semi-immortal metahuman who has the ability to disable other metahumans’ abilities and blames other super-powered individuals for his suffering.” After just getting to hear his breathing and seeing his Lightning Daggers, his full look is now revealed, along with a tease of him using one of the daggers against Cisco Ramon/Vibe (Carlos Valdes).

DC Comics readers may be surprised to see how Cicada appears, as his look largely differs from the source material. In the comics, he’s an old, bald man with a long white beard when he battles Flash. He has potential immortality thanks to his ability to steal the souls of others to extend his own life. This could be partially changed for the show as it appears he’s been given the ability to take metahuman powers but not someone’s soul.

At this point in the lead up to The Flash‘s return, it’s simply nice to finally get a clear look at Cicada. Even the most recent Flash trailer just continued to tease his presence instead of actually showing him. Since these images are from the second episode of the series, it’s possible viewers may not get to see him in action during the season premiere. Thankfully, the wait is almost over to see whether or not he appears.

MORE: All 10 Superhero Shows Returning or Premiering In Fall 2018

The Flash season 5 premieres on October 9 on The CW.

Source: The CW



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2018-10-08 07:10:04 – Cooper Hood