10 Characters The Walking Dead Wants Us To Forget

When a show has been on the air for as long as The Walking Dead has, it’s understandable – even expected – that the writers would make their share of questionable decisions. This is especially true when it comes to TWD. 

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Through controversy, backlash, and even driving their fanbase away on multiple occasions, the series’ writers have made several decisions that wound up hurting the show. Some of these decisions included introducing characters that failed to win the audience’s affections, or killing off beloved characters.

Because of that, TWD, of course, has quite a collection of characters that it would most likely want the fans to forget. Let’s explore 10 of the characters that The Walking Dead writers want us to forget.


From what was pretty much the very beginning of the series, a large portion of the Walking Dead fanbase adopted a passionate dislike for Lori Grimes. She was barely in the show for three seasons, but that was all it took for the fans’ dislike to morph into absolute hatred.

Sure, Lori had her flaws. She did make questionable decisions, and her parenting skills weren’t always the greatest. But did she really deserve all the hate she got? TWD writers didn’t seem to care about the answer to that question, as Lori is now a forgotten aspect of the show.


It has been nearly seven years since T-Dog met his heartbreaking demise. He was not a major character, but he garnered enough screen time and memorable scenes to live on in the audience’s memories.

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But The Walking Dead writers don’t seem to share the same sentiment, seemingly having forgotten all about T-Dog. This is most likely the writers’ attempt to bury the age of Darabont, the show’s first show-runner, as T-Dog was his original character. But despite that, T-Dog is still missed to this day.


Due to her major role in the comics, it came as a shock to many when Andrea’s less-than-intelligent decisions in season 3 accumulated in the finale to cause her untimely death. She had a significant presence in the show, but after her death, she was rarely ever mentioned by anyone.

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Many fans weren’t too happy with Andrea’s sudden demise, as they were expecting her to carry on a storyline similar to the one she had in the graphic novels. Perhaps this uproar provoked the TWD writers to bury Andrea’s character in the deepest archives of the series’ history, having many of the characters seemingly forget about her.


Dale Horvath was only on TWD for two seasons. But he made his mark nonetheless, from inserting himself into everyone else’s business to the point where it was almost humorous, and to his heartbreaking death.

The death of this wise character made for some pretty heavy drama and tension in Rick’s group. Dale’s departure broke the hearts of many, other characters and viewers alike. But TWD writers didn’t have much choice in killing Dale. In fact, actor Jeffrey DeMunn actually asked for his character to be written out of the show. Considering that DeMunn was a close friend of former showrunner, Frank Darabont’s (who was fired by AMC in 2011), it does make sense that the TWD writers would want Dale to vanish from the audience’s memories.


Morgan may be one of the lead characters on Fear The Walking Dead, but his exit from the main series at the end of season 8, still felt unjust, with his lengthy history on the show. Morgan made his first appearance in TWD‘s series premiere. He remained a major part of the series’ story, despite not appearing again until late season 3.

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At this point, when Rick, Michonne, and Carl accidentally stumbled upon Morgan, he was reeling from the death of both his son and (zombified) wife. Morgan was so traumatized from these horrors that he nearly killed Rick on multiple occasions in the episode, and even begged Rick to kill him. Due to Morgan’s breakdown, Rick, Michonne, and Carl left him. It wasn’t until season 5 when Morgan came back to the show and became a series regular. Lennie James’ portrayal of Morgan made him very likeable, but TWD writers utilized this in all the wrong ways; sending Morgan to Fear The Walking Dead and effectively making the characters cease to speak of him ever since.


Eric was an underdeveloped character best known for being Aaron’s boyfriend. Though he made very few appearances, it was always good to see LGBTQ characters represented on The Walking Dead. But when there is a decent amount of gay characters on this show, viewers have learned to be prepared to say goodbye pretty fast.

Eric’s heartbreaking death occurred early in season 8, when he was fatally shot by a Savior while assisting his community with an ambush. Tragically, Aaron is forced to leave Eric to bleed out. Later, Aaron finds that Eric has reanimated. Viewers are only shown a distant shot of the walker version of Eric, but this is nonetheless unsettling. Aaron is left to raise Gracie, an orphaned baby, on his own. Walking Dead writers have since left Eric’s memory in the dust, most likely in hopes of quieting the complaints of their habit of killing so many LGBTQ characters.


Perhaps one of the biggest, most regrettable mistakes that the TWD writers have ever made was killing Glenn Rhee. He was a fan-favorite since the very beginning, and it’s a popular opinion among The Walking Dead‘s fanbase that Glenn was significantly mistreated by the writers.

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This was a character who proved to be the heart of the show on multiple occasions, who was always making selfless and decisions. Glenn was one of the few characters whose humanity remained intact, and who always strived to honor his dead loved ones. Given this lovely character and Steven Yeun’s strong talents, TWD writers should have treasured Glenn Rhee. But instead, they killed him off for cheap shock value and the lame excuse of “following the comics”. Given the immense amount of backlash Glenn’s death evoked, it’s obvious that Walking Dead writers would, shamefully, want to keep Glenn’s time on the show a distant one.


Denise was not on the show for very long, but she had a memorable existence. In the days before the apocalypse, she was a psychiatrist. She originally went to medical school to be a surgeon, but due to her anxiety, she switched to psychiatry. This makes it even nobler when she becomes Alexandria’s doctor, and saves Carl’s life.

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Denise was timid and insecure, but many viewers grew quite attached to her quirky demeanor. Her relationship with Tara was short-lived but adorable. When Denise died late in season 6, The Walking Dead once again re-established its reputation for not only killing characters solely for shock value, but also frequently killing LGBTQ characters.


Season 6 was not The Walking Dead‘s strongest season, and one of the reasons for this was the entire storyline that surrounded the Anderson family. After Rick and co. arrive in Alexandria, Rick begins to show his problematic side.

He meets Jessie Anderson shortly after he arrives in Alexandria, and in TWD’s typical, heavy-handed style, viewers are treated to a scene of contrived flirtation as Jessie cuts Rick’s hair. This, of course, is only the beginning of a storyline that the majority of the fanbase hated with a passion. From Rick falling in love with Jessie within five minutes of knowing her, to Rick’s brawl with Jessie’s husband, Pete, and finally to Rick’s short, extremely contrived romance with Jessie – this storyline’s only real redeeming quality was its memorable end. Based on how badly received the Anderson family was, it’s understandable that TWD probably wants everyone to forget about this absurd arc.


Goodbyes are never easy on TWD, but one of the most peculiar instances of a character exit was Maggie Rhee’s. She had been a strong presence in the show since season 2, so it came as quite a shock to see the show dispose of her in such an unceremonious way. After the six-year time jump that followed Rick’s disappearance, it was alluded to that Maggie had left Hilltop. Apparently, no one really knows where exactly she is, and she is only mentioned a tiny handful of times after her departure.

Rick Grimes’ exit was monopolized and hyped for months before the episode aired. But it was Andrew Lincoln’s decision to leave the series, just as it was Lauren Cohan’s decision to leave. For Maggie, who was a very longterm major character, Walking Dead writers should have shown a little respect and given her a proper exit, rather than attempting to disintegrate her entire existence.

NEXT: The Walking Dead Reveals How Maggie Can Return in Season 10

2019-04-15 01:04:27

Savannah Di Leo

20 Characters The MCU Wants Us To Forget

The Marvel Cinematic Universe is the biggest movie franchise in the world right now. In fact, it has completely changed the way that movie franchises work by having various series running concurrently, each crossing over with one another, and the occasional event movie with an ensemble team-up element, all of them serving one long narrative arc.

The MCU can keep up with characters like Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor, who each have their own solo movies and large roles in the team-up movies. But the supporting characters are a different story. Sometimes the actors playing them aren’t available to return or there simply isn’t room for them in the story anymore. If one of the Avengers is in love, there might not necessarily be enough time for them to give that loved one a call while the end of the world is coming, even though that’s what they would do in real life, because there’s simply too many Avengers to keep track of within one movie. As a result, some characters have fallen by the wayside over the years.

Of course, some of these characters do eventually return, either due to popular demand, like when Loki was made the main villain of The Avengers, or in a surprising capacity, like when Red Skull appeared on Vormir as the guardian of the Soul Stone in Avengers: Infinity War. So, ahead of Avengers: Endgame, here are 20 Characters The MCU Wants Us To Forget.

20 Jane Foster

Because Natalie Portman’s Jane Foster was slammed by MCU fans as one of the most banal and mundane characters in film history, her role was reduced to the occasional passing reference after Thor: The Dark World, with excuses offered for why she wasn’t anywhere to be seen.

Now, she doesn’t even get a passing reference. Thor was supposed to be in love with this woman – she was depicted as the only reason he cared about Earth to begin with – and yet she doesn’t cross his mind whenever he risks his life or Earth is threatened. Fans don’t seem to mind, since no one really liked her anyway.

19 Abomination

The MCU pretty much wants us to forget about the entirety of The Incredible Hulk, including its primary villain, the Abomination, played by Tim Roth. He was shown to have survived at the end of the movie, and yet he hasn’t even been mentioned since.

This is probably because the Hulk as we now know him in the MCU is the Mark Ruffalo version. Ruffalo plays the character totally different from how Edward Norton played him in The Incredible Hulk, and due to Norton’s need for creative control grating on Marvel during the production of that movie, it seems as though they want to forget about it completely, villains with unresolved storylines and all.

18 Sif

Due to her commitments to the show Blindspot, Jaimie Alexander had her role as Sif in the MCU drastically cut down. It’s a shame, because she’s such a great character in the comics. Pretty much any Asgardian who isn’t Thor, Loki, or Odin has been forgotten about, since the Thor solo movies were among the weakest and most boring films in the MCU before Ragnarok took the story outside of Asgard and to the more interesting setting of Sakaar.

But if Thor and his allies, including Sif, had been given the proper treatment in the first place, we’d have a bunch of hardcore Asgardian warriors dominating the MCU.

17 Trevor Slattery

After the controversial plot twist in Iron Man 3 that revealed the fearsome Mandarin was actually an actor named Trevor Slattery (played by Sir Ben Kingsley in an uncharacteristically silly role,) Marvel made a short called All Hail the King that erased the twist and confirmed there was an actual Mandarin after all.

Slattery is still alive and in prison, but due to the fact that his only links to villainy were a big ruse and the villain he was pretending to be actually exists – and, of course, the fact that his whole character infuriated Marvel fans across the world – we’ll probably never see him again.

16 The Mandarin

The real Mandarin, that is, not the fake Trevor Slattery version – or the fake Aldrich Killian version. While the All Hail the King short revealed the Mandarin is actually out there, that also seems to have been forgotten about, since we haven’t seen or heard from him since the short was released.

In the short, a supposed documentary filmmaker visits Slattery in prison and tells him that the real Mandarin is furious that he and Aldrich Killian used his moniker, because he’s far more intimidating than them and they’ve made a mockery of his name. Now, he’s just waiting to strike (apparently). But we still haven’t seen him, so is her really out there or not?

15 The Leader

The arrival of the Leader, one of the Hulk’s most powerful villains, was teased at the end of The Incredible Hulk. Tim Blake Nelson’s Samuel Sterns got some of Bruce Banner’s gamma-radiated blood in his head wound and a mutation began. The filmmakers were clearly hoping for a sequel, and while the franchise did continue, there never actually was a sequel.

Edward Norton was replaced by Mark Ruffalo and his whole movie was pretty much swept under the rug, and due to various rights issues, Marvel Studios will probably never be able to produce another Hulk solo movie for the MCU. As a result, we’ll probably never see this setup get paid off.

14 H.Y.D.R.A.

After the big reveal in Captain America: The Winter Soldier that H.Y.D.R.A. had been secretly controlling S.H.I.E.L.D. for decades – since at least World War II when they infiltrated the organization – all further H.Y.D.R.A. story-lines were delegated to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but H.Y.D.R.A.’s way more powerful than that. H.Y.D.R.A. is essentially the comic book version of the Third Reich.

It’s been around since the Second World War, secretly manipulating all the evil politics controlling the world. So, where the heck have they been all this time? There are certainly more agents out there, and they should return to the MCU to wreak havoc or it’ll be a permanent plot hole.

13 Ultron

While Age of Ultron hinted that the titular cyborg survived and there’s a theory that Vision trapped him inside the Mind Stone, the MCU has since moved on to bigger and badder villains that Ultron doesn’t hold a torch to, so that tease will just be swept under the rug.

Still, he’s not technically biological life and may have been spared from Thanos’ destructive finger-snap. He might even enjoy the fact that Thanos is “fixing” the universe and agree with him. Maybe he’ll join Thanos’ army in Endgame and he’ll be the next villain to make a surprise return (after Red Skull in Infinity War).

12 The Grandmaster

As much as Jeff Goldblum made an impact as the Grandmaster in Thor: Ragnarok and warmed the hearts of fans, there’s no way he could appear in future movies, because he’s completely nonsensical outside of the context of his dominion on Sakaar.

Plus, there’s no way he survived the revolution on Sakaar, no matter what hilarious scene came after the credits. He may have asked them to call it even and spare his life, but even if we didn’t actually see him get savagely torn apart by his former minions and the character did become a fan favorite, there’s no way they actually let him live.

11 Anne Marie Hoag

Even though Tyne Daly is a big star (or used to be) and Damage Control is an important part of the wider world of the MCU, we’ll probably never see her again. Her one scene in Spider-Man: Homecoming took place eight years ago (but not really – the timeline is nonsense), and a previously announced Damage Control TV series was cancelled, so we’ve likely seen the last of Anne Marie Hoag.

The problems with the timeline mean that there’s no way of knowing what movie she’d even fit into anyway. She seems to exist in an eight-year period that overlaps with various other events in the franchise.

10 Darcy Lewis

The unfortunate thing about Darcy Lewis, played by Kat Dennings, is that she was a funny character who came into the Thor movies before they were funny. She’d be right at home in Thor: Ragnarok, but unfortunately, she came in a little early in The Dark World and her character faded into the past as the MCU charged forward.

Given the fact that The Dark World is easily the most despised movie in the MCU (Iron Man 3 is a strong candidate, but there are some people who think that’s a great movie and only some think it sucks, whereas The Dark World is universally hated,) no one’s clamoring for her to come back, frankly.

9 Ghost Rider

In the fourth season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Robbie Reyes made a deal to go after bad guys with the Ghost Rider at his side. It was a promising screen portrayal of Ghost Rider (for once) and things were looking bright for his future. But the last time we saw him, he took the Darkhold and disappeared into another dimension.

Maybe the problem was introducing this character as a supporting character on an ABC show. He would’ve been better off with his own dark Netflix series. Of course, if that had happened, it would’ve just been cancelled when tensions arose between Disney and Netflix on the streaming front, so maybe not.

8 Fandral

Zachary Levi’s Fandral was reduced to a cameo role in Thor: Ragnarok, suggesting he’s been fazed out of the MCU. Levi revealed recently that he was always interested in doing a Thor and the Warriors Three trilogy of high fantasy action movies with Chris Hemsworth.

This would’ve been awesome – we could’ve had a comic book version of The Lord of the Rings on the side, with super-powered Norse gods battling demons, dark elves, and Frost Giants across various dimensions and planets. Unfortunately, with Levi joining the DCEU this year as he stars in Shazam!, this will probably never happen and we never even see Fandral again.

7 The Collector

When Benicio Del Toro appeared in Avengers: Infinity War, it turned out to be a trick created by Thanos. The illusion disappeared and the Collector’s study was burning and he was nowhere to be seen. So, where is he? It’s likely he was eliminated by Thanos, but where’s the fun in that?

Del Toro has since taken a mysterious role as a creepy individual in another big Disney franchise, playing a character known only as DJ in the Star Wars saga, so it’s possible he doesn’t have the time to appear in the MCU anymore and he’s just been forgotten about. He didn’t have any outstanding plot arcs, except for his unfounded association to Howard the Duck.

6 Sharon Carter

On paper, it might have seemed like a natural story move to have Steve Rogers, the guy who fell in love Peggy Carter and then was frozen in time and only thawed out when she was at the end of her life, start dating someone else from the Carter bloodline. However, Rogers’ weird quasi-incestuous relationship with his ex-girlfriend’s great niece has always been disturbing to fans, understandably.

Since he’s had bigger fish to fry in the last couple of movies, what with the end of the world as we know it and all, his relationship with Sharon hasn’t been resolved. But due to backlash from fans, it’s possible the producers are abandoning that storyline altogether, which would be a wise move.

5 Justin Hammer

Surely this rival arms dealer played by Sam Rockwell could have some involvement in the nightmarish global developments happening in the Avengers films. We’ve seen the military getting heavily involved in Thanos’ destruction – Hammer could be the one arming them!

His company was mentioned in Luke Cage, which was a nice little way of tying the movies and the TV shows of the MCU together, but we haven’t seen Rockwell himself since way back in Iron Man 2. He was locked in the same prison as Adrian Toomes, but since he’s rich, he probably got out quite early. With Rockwell now an Academy Award winner, he might be too big for the MCU.

4 Baron Zemo

Baron Zemo’s plan to get the Avengers to implode in Captain America: Civil War was so absurdly convoluted and he went out without a bang, so it’s safe to say the MCU doesn’t want you remembering this character ever even existed. If the last time we ever see Baron Zemo is at the end of Civil War as he watches the Sun set and reflects on his plan and explains it to Black Panther, then that wouldn’t be too bad.

It was a good scene, acted brilliantly by Daniel Bruhl. However, Baron Zemo is a great character in the comics and, despite Bruhl’s strong performance, the film failed to properly represent him, so it would be a shame if we never see him again.

3 Betty Ross

Liv Tyler is a great actress and Betty Ross is Bruce Banner’s most prominent love interest in the comics. However, since she hasn’t been mentioned at all by Mark Ruffalo’s Banner and he’s gotten involved in a romantic entanglement with Black Widow, Tyler’s Betty will likely remain a distant memory, and an unresolved storyline.

Ruffalo has suggested that the Hulk’s romance with Black Widow isn’t going away any time soon, as they’re star-crossed lovers who have the kind of relationship that continues to grow and evolve for a lifetime – they’re basically the Ross and Rachel of the MCU. Still, Betty could return to conflict Bruce even further – she could be the Emily or the Julie of the MCU.

2 Crossbones

After Crossbones was thought to have passed away in the aftermath of Captain America: The Winter Soldier’s climactic battle, he made a surprising return in Civil War as he led the charge against the Avengers with a skull mask covering his charred face. And then he quickly did pass away after detonating a bomb on himself.

So, he was gone after all. The question of who even hired him in the first place got fans more confused about his Civil War appearance than excited, so Marvel hopes he’ll be quickly forgotten about. The biggest shame about this is that Frank Grillo is an awesome actor, so he’ll be missed.

1 Erik Selvig

Erik Selvig was a large part of Thor’s introduction to Earth, as he was a scientific mind who was skeptical that he was even a Norse god at all. Jane Foster opened his mind to the mystical and he eventually realized Thor was a god when he saw him battle a giant, magical alien robot called the Destroyer.

After that, he was heavily involved in the MCU for a couple of years with his employment at S.H.I.E.L.D. and his scientific expertise coming in handy. He was an integral part of Loki’s master plan in The Avengers and must be riddled with guilt, but he’s since been hung out to dry. Fans don’t necessarily miss him, but still, what happened to the guy?

2019-04-14 06:04:27

Ben Sherlock

Game Of Thrones: 10 Things The Show Wants You To Forget

Game of Thrones is coming to an end and it’s a very bittersweet time for fans. On the one hand, it’s going to be difficult saying goodbye to all the characters we have come to care so much about. On the other hand, we finally get to see how it all ends. The show has been building up to this epic conclusion for years, slowly laying the groundwork through key moments and character growth, all leading to these final episodes.

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However, not all moments in the show have landed the same. Game of Thrones is a complex show so there’s bound to be the occasional misstep. Whether it’s poor character moments, inconsistencies or cringe-worthy scenes, these are the moments the show wants you to forget.

10 Direwolves

Direwolves were introduced in the very first episode and they quickly became one of the coolest aspects of the show. The unusually large wolves served as protectors of the Stark children, ripping out the throats of anyone who tried to do them harm. And then after a while, they just sort of disappeared from the show.

Despite the Direwolves playing big roles in the books, the show was quick to push them to the background and kill them off whenever they had the chance. The fact that their screentime decreased as the dragons started to grow is probably not a coincidence. There’s only room for so many fantastical creatures in the budget.

9 Daenerys’s Wedding

Daenerys Targaryen and Khal Drogo had one of the unlikeliest romances. Despite it being a forced marriage and them not speaking the same language, they made it work. However, the fact that Drogo rapes Daenerys on their wedding night is still very hard to look past.

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Drogo is presented as a vicious savage so it’s not altogether surprising, but to ask the audience to then forget that and root for these two as a couple is a lot to ask. The show does demonstrate that they eventually truly love each other, but that just adds to the uncomfortable depiction of assault.

8 Tyrion Forgives And Forgets

Tyrion Lannister is one of the best players of the “great game”, mostly due to the fact that he’s often smart enough to know not to trust anyone. So when he finds out that Littlefinger told Catelyn Stark that the dagger used by Bran’s would-be assassin belonged to Tyrion, you would think he’d work quick to remove Littlefinger’s head.

For some reason, the show decided to drop this bit of intrigue completely. Tyrion arrives at King’s Landing and works side-by-side with Littlefinger, never once bringing up the fact or asking any questions regarding his framing. It’s not like Tyrion to stay quiet.

7 Arya Should Be Dead

Arya Stark is one of the toughest people on the show. She’s been through a lot, survived many dangerous situations and racked up an impressive body count. However, after having a run-in with The Waif in the streets of Braavos and living to tell the tale, they may have overplayed just how tough she is.

After The Waif gets the drop on her, Arya is stabbed repeatedly in the gut. She manages to escape, gets healed up by an actor and still finds a way to best her enemy. The wound is so severe and the recovery so quick that people speculated that Arya actually died from the encounter.

6 Dorne

It’s always exciting when a new location is introduced to the show. In Season 5, we got our first glimpse at Dorne, a place that is filled with interesting characters and plots in the books. But despite the potential, the show completely mishandled the Dornish storyline.

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The show’s depiction of Dorne gave us a handful of poorly-written and dull characters who fell far short of living up to Oberyn Martell. The storyline was also predictable and a waste of time. By Season 6, the show basically tried to wipe away the fact that Dorne ever existed.

5 Littlefinger Finds Arya

Westeros is a big place, and yet major characters seem to have a knack for running into each other. When Arya is a captor at Winterfell, she meets The Mountain, Tywin Lannister and, most unexpected, Littlefinger. This makes for a tense scene as Arya, in disguise, attempts to avoid being identified by Littlefinger.

Littlefinger eventually gets a good look at her, seems to come to the appropriate realization, then does nothing. It can be hard to figure out Littlefinger’s schemes but it’s hard to believe he would just let such an important person as Arya slip through his fingers. It’s as if the show was setting up for something and forgot to follow through.

4 Line Of Succession

When Robert Baratheon died, there was much talk about the proper succession. Each power player had to handle the situation very carefully showing that they were the rightful heir to the throne or else they would never be excepted as a true king. By the end of Season 6, the laws of succession basically boiled down to whoever kills the person sitting on the throne gets the throne.

From Euron Greyjoy, to Ellaria Sand, to Ramsay Bolton, to Cersei Lannister — each murdered their way to leadership without anyone batting an eye or raising a fuss. The show totally did away with the nuance of the politics behind seizing the throne and now it’s not of a big game of musical chairs.

3 Melisandre’s Necklace

One of the most unexpected reveals was in Season 6 when Melisandre removes her red ruby necklace and reverts to her true form, which is a decrepit old woman. It certainly adds a lot of layers to the character, but the magic behind the whole thing is shaky at best.

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We’re led to believe that the necklace creates some sort of illusion which can be maintained so long as she wears it. However, in the past we’ve seen Melisandre without the necklace and still looking her same beautiful self. The reveal seems to be a late addition by the creators and they failed to notice the inconsistencies.

2 Jaime Is Irredeemable

Jaime Lannister is certainly one of the most interesting characters in the show. He was first presented as Westeros most hated man before more was revealed about him and the fact that many stories told about him were lies. However, the murder of the Mad King was nothing compared to the horrible thing we’ve seen him do, including raping his own sister.

While trying to kill Bran was certainly unforgivable, seeing Jaime force himself on Cersei as she mourns Joffrey was a stomach-churning moment. The show may have gone too far and it will be hard to truly look at Jaime as a redeemable character after that.

1 Travel Time In Westeros

The biggest elephant in the room when it comes to this show is that people get around Westeros way too quickly. A character can leave Winterfell and be in King’s Landing by the episode’s end and the show just expects us to accept that.

To be fair, this is a total nitpicky detail that must drive the show’s creative team nuts. Of course, we would rather see people implausibly appear somewhere than waster two episodes watching them sail to their destination. Still, when Littlefinger seemingly transports around the entire Seven Kingdoms, it’s hard to ignore.

NEXT: Game Of Thrones: 8 Most Important Episodes To Watch Before Season 8

2019-04-13 11:04:38

Colin McCormick

Forget Thanos’ Butt: Captain Marvel’s Cat Should EAT Him

Warning: SPOILERS for Captain Marvel

We never thought that Avengers: Endgame theories would suggest that Ant-Man enter Thanos’ butt, yet that is exactly where Marvel fans have taken the conversation. So if we’re spinning outlandish theories, we believe the MCU has already shown that the best way to beat Thanos isn’t to invade his lower intestines… it’s swallowing him whole.

That’s not a task for any of the Avengers who survived his snap, even if it would make for terrific revenge. It’s not a mission for any human being at all, but a mysteriously gifted Flerken, also known as Captain Marvel’s cat Goose. And while the directors of Endgame won’t confirm or deny whether or not Goose survived Thanos’ snap, we hope for the sake of the universe that she did. Because the true secret of her deadly tentacles is exactly what it will take to end Thanos once and for all. Not to mention spare Ant-Man his worst mission ever…

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In case anyone has missed the emergence of this butt-focused Thanos theory–tragically referred to in some online circles as ‘The Thanus Theory’–it may be hard to believe. But more than giving a brand new meaning to the term Endgame, the crude joke has taken on a life of its own. The first suggestion made sense: if Ant-Man penetrated Thanos’ defenses by entering his body through an orifice, he could manage to circumvent his incredibly durable skin (invincible enough to yield a single drop of blood in response to Iron Man’s most violent assault). Once inside, Ant-Man need only grow to his normal size, or to the Giant Man scale, and kill Thanos in gruesome yet effective fashion.

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Before long, the theory had spurred on creative interpretations of how Ant-Man would invade Thanos in a heated battle, until even Josh Brolin posted a response to the Thanos Butt Theory. Sadly, nobody stopped to realize the most crucial drawback to the plan: the experience wouldn’t go as smoothly for Scott Lang as fans seem to suggest. As Drax and the Guardians of the Galaxy explained in their second film, an impenetrable skin is just as impenetrable from the inside. Meaning growing to full size could kill Thanos from inside out… but it would almost certainly mean the death of Ant-Man, as well. A worthwhile sacrifice, perhaps–but not one the Avengers need to make if they follow our plan, instead.

After seeing Captain Marvel, it would be tempting to say “Goose the cat should just swallow Thanos whole” and be done with it. The Flerken’s ability to spew out a massive storm of tentacles and consume enemies is as close to a ‘win button’ as the Marvel movies have gotten. But there’s more to the theory than a solid joke. To understand why Goose is the perfectly-crafted Thanos killer, audiences will need to learn about the secret behind her abilities. We’re referring not only to the ability to spew tentacles, but to swallow the Tesseract without issue.

The question isn’t how Goose can survive swallowing an Infinity Stone, or a Mad cosmic Titan, and live. The question is where they go when Goose swallows them. And the answer to that question spells out the Avengers’ next movie perfectly. Buckle up.

Page 2 of 2: Goose The Cat’s Secret, Thanos-Beating Power

The Captain Marvel movie took most of its inspiration from her most recent comic update, and that includes turning Carol’s cat into Chewie, the alien Flerken, possessing the horrifying (but seriously handy) ability to unleash a torrent of tentacles upun her enemies. And while that may seem like a gag, it was actually tied to real questions of physiology and space. The mystery started when Chewie laid dozens of eggs without anyone noticing, and Carol turned to an animal rescue for help. Here’s how the previously hidden eggs were explained in Captain Marvel #8 (2014) by writer Kelly Sue DeConnick:

“For one thing, we think Chewie has been gestating her eggs the entire time she’s been with you… If we ever figure out how to talk to her, we’ll ask [how]. Until then, we think it has to do with her pocket dimensions. Like hamster cheeks, almost. Chewie has physical access to bubbles of space and time that exist in other worlds. She can hide things larger than she would appear to be inside those pockets–eggs, for instance, tentacles–and we think she can use them for transport, though we’re not sure how.”

That theoretical explanation–that Flerken are able to access pockets of space internally–makes perfect sense, and justifies the launching of tentacles or egg batches far larger than their bodies. In the Captain Marvel movie, the filmmakers take that same premise to a new end: if Goose isn’t actually holding the things she swallows “inside her body,” then what would keep her from slurping up the Tesseract? Holding it may burn Nick Fury’s hands and disintegrate Red Skull… but if Goose isn’t actually holding it at all, merely placing it in a bubble dimension, how could it do any harm?

For the same reason that Goose can ‘ingest’ an Infinity Stone, she would be able to put an end to the reign of Thanos in any number of ways. If the Avengers time travel in Endgame to a point before Thanos gains all the Infinity Stones, having Goose swallow him whole would be akin to stranding him in a temporal/spatial limbo. Goose had to regurgitate the Tesseract eventually, but a physical being like Thanos shouldn’t be any different than the other Kree soldiers Goose consumes in the movie, either.

Bur what if Thanos does get most of the Infinity Stones before Goose orally transports him into a pocket dimension? What good would Power be? Can the Space Stone work across dimensions? Most importantly, if Goose recognizes friend from foe, could she know to never let Thanos out once swallowed? It’s a compelling riddle, but let’s not forget the other way that Goose can help the Avengers in their attack. Remember: as a Flerken, Goose has “physical access to bubble of space and time.”

Are we suggesting that Goose will swallow the Avengers to help teleport them across the universe and assemble as one unit? No, even though Chewie does teleport herself and Carol’s friend later in the same issue. But if Goose can move objects or people from one point in space and time to another… the backup plan will always be there, should Captain Marvel and the Avengers need her. Here’s hoping.

MORE: Captain Marvel’s ‘Avenger’ Twist: The MCU’s Dumbest Moment?

2019-04-06 03:04:09

Andrew Dyce

Grey’s Anatomy: 14 Patients Every True Fan Will Remember (And 6 We’d Rather Forget)

Currently airing season 15, Grey’s Anatomy has covered quite a bit of ground throughout its seemingly unending reign on prime time television. Viewers were hooked almost immediately thanks to the show’s impossibly quotable dialogue, epic romances and complex medical cases set to an amazing soundtrack. Grey’s made household names of all its stars and reminded the world that ‘80s heartthrob Patrick Dempsey was still a total dreamboat. The series is also largely responsible for the impressive Shonda Rhimes television takeover that followed.

It is true that much of the best Grey’s Anatomy drama stems from its core cast, despite the fact that the majority of faces have changed drastically since season 1. However, the doctors of Seattle Grace aren’t the only memorable characters to appear in the long-running series. Many of the patients have also been pretty incredible – even if the majority of those cases resulted in an intense need to hug your loved ones.

Over the years, Grey’s has introduced fans to some pretty unforgettable patients. Thanks to the show’s seamless mix of heart and humor, these cases often touch upon the full spectrum of human emotion. There were moments that made viewers laugh out loud, but others that had them reaching for the nearest box of tissues. Although the most lovable patients on the series are too numerous to name, there has also been the occasional transient that fans wish they had never met.

Excluding our favorite doctors’ family members, here are 14 Patients Every True Fan Will Remember (And 6 We’d Rather Forget.)

20 Memorable: Denny Duquette Jr.

Has there ever been a more memorable patient than Denny Duquette Jr.? Seriously, no matter how wrong the season 2 romance between Izzie and her patient was, viewers refused to stop rooting for them. There have been plenty of heartbreaking patient losses on Grey’s Anatomy, but none quite so gut-wrenching as when Izzie discovered that Denny had slipped away.

Denny was not only kind, but also funny and thoughtful. Of course, much of this can be attributed to Jeffrey Dean Morgan’s undeniable charms – side note: why do so many shows and movies insist on offing his characters? As much as fans loved watching the romance between Izzie and Denny develop, the less said said about his season 5 stint as a ghost/hallucination, the better.

19 Want To Forget: Sonya Cowlman And Adam Morris

We can appreciate that Sonya Cowlman and Adam Morris had a complex marriage and an even more complicated divorce, but that doesn’t change the fact that their medical case was kind of icky. They appeared in season 3 episode, “Oh, the Guilt”, portrayed by Faith Prince and Arye Gross, respectively. Sonya and Adam were a divorced couple that hadn’t quite gotten over each other since their marriage ended.

Unfortunately, a midlife crisis piercing that Adam had gotten wound up caught on Sonya’s method of contraception, leaving the two in a rather compromising position. They got stuck and had to be taken to the hospital. Making matters worse, their daughter walked in on this horrible visual, before the doctors were able to separate them. Talk about needing years of therapy!

18 Memorable: Beatrice Carver

The fact that Season 2 patient Beatrice Carver is memorable shouldn’t come as too much of a shock, considering it was Laurie Metcalf who played her. Despite being diagnosed with terminal cancer, Beatrice was intent on hiding her looming fate from her daughter, Amelia. Keeping the secret was so important to her that she even attempted to check out of the hospital against medical advice to celebrate her daughter’s birthday.

Ever the realist, it was Alex who convinced Beatrice that she needed to be honest with Amelia before it was too late. In a beautiful, but heartbreaking scene, Beatrice told her daughter the truth. However, she did more than just explain how sick she really was. Beatrice crammed a lifetime’s worth of maternal wisdom into just a few moments, knowing that she wouldn’t have much more time to do so.

17 Memorable: Jake Burton

Played by future Friday Night Lights alum, Jesse Plemons, Jake Burton appeared in season 2 as well. He came to the hospital with a brain tumor, which had been caused by his incredibly severe case of lionitis. Derek planned on resecting the tumor and Mark suggested that, since the patient would be under anesthesia anyway, the plastic surgeon might as well attempt to remove the growths from his face. This would make the fifteen-year-old look “normal” for the first time in his life.

In a soul-crushing turn of events, Jake did not survive the tumor resection. Thankfully, Mark was still game to perform the other surgery with Alex and Cristina assisting. Jake may never have been able to see his new face, but his parents wept in gratitude.

16 Memorable: Bonnie Crasnoff And Tom Maynard

What can we say? Season 2 had a lot of memorable patients. Few left more of an impression than Bonnie Crasnoff and Tom Maynard. These two were were victims of a train crash that flooded the hospital with patients. Their case was unique, however, because they had been impaled on a metal pole… together.

The pair were joking, bonding with each other right up until the end. Unfortunately, there was no way to save them both and the patient with the better odds of success was Tom. In a heartbreaking moment, Bonnie asked that Derek be the one to tell her fiancé what happened. When the two patients were separated, the life began to drain from Bonnie immediately. The other doctors rushed to save Tom, but Meredith refused to abandon her.

15 Want To Forget: Lawrence Jennings

Lawrence Jennings (Mitch Pileggi) made his first appearance in season 3. He was a member of the board, but his debut episode saw him show up as a patient. After spending some time in the Amazon, Larry found himself experiencing certain uncomfortable symptoms. Chief Webber diagnosed him as having a candiru fish, which is basically a fish that swims up the last place anyone would ever want one to.

It’s not just that Larry’s case was kind of gross. The larger is issue is that he was cheating on his wife with his assistant and was awful to both of them. By episode’s end, Larry did lose his marriage and his mistress, but he’s still a patient best left forgotten.

14 Memorable: Nick Hanscom

One of several Buffy the Vampire alums to appear on Grey’s Anatomy, Seth Green showed up in season 4 for “Crash Into Me” Parts 1 and 2. He portrayed the sweet, but short-lived, Nick Hanscom. One of Lexie’s first patients, Nick had a huge tumor removed from his carotid artery. He was left with just a small flap of skin covering this very sensitive area.

Nick and Lexie quickly developed a good rapport, which made it that much more difficult when his artery inevitably burst. Lexie did everything that she could to save him, but sadly, it wasn’t enough. Thanks to Green’s charms, most viewers were just as heartbroken as Lexie after he bled out.

13 Memorable: CeCe Colvin

CeCe Colvin is the most recent Grey Sloan Memorial patient on this list. She was portrayed by Caroline Clay and appeared in six episodes during the show’s current season. CeCe was inadvertently responsible for taking someone’s life after  passing out behind the wheel due to her health issues. Nisha was driving the car that CeCe hit and she suffered tremendous guilt over the fact that the other woman didn’t survive.

CeCe was a professional matchmaker with an 85% success rate, so she took an immediate interest in Meredith’s lack of a love life. Finally ready to attempt to find romance, Meredith was actually somewhat receptive. Sadly, even though she convinced CeCe that she deserved to live, in the end, Meredith couldn’t save her thanks to a power outage during surgery.

12 Memorable: Mary Portman

Before Mandy Moore made America fall in love with Rebecca Pearson on This is Us, she was one of Grey’s Anatomy’s most memorable patients. Mary made her debut in the season 6 finale, also known as one of the most intense two-parters in the history of television. She was at the hospital for a routine surgery, but after her husband left to grab her something to eat, everything went crazy.

Bereaved husband, Gary Clark, walked into the hospital and started shooting people. Mary was trapped in her hospital room with Bailey and later, Charles, during the incident. In a gut-wrenching twist, Mary survived the shooting, just to later lose her life following the procedure that she had originally gone to the hospital for. The surgery seemingly went off without a hitch, but Mary never woke up.

11 Want To Forget: Rebecca Pope/Ava

After seeing the patient/doctor romance story rendered in such swoon-worthy fashion with Denny and Izzie, the one between Alex and Ava was pretty disappointing. Rebecca (Elizabeth Reaser) showed up in season 3 as a pregnant Jane Doe who was wounded beyond all recognition from the ferry crash. Alex was the one who found her and the two grew quite close over time.

The issue was, there wasn’t much chemistry between Justin Chambers and Reaser, plus the storyline just dragged on for far too long. The questions raised by Ava’s identity crisis could’ve been interesting, if the story wasn’t so focused on her lackluster relationship with Alex. She kept leaving and every time she returned, viewers cared just a little bit less about what happened to her.

10 Memorable: Jeremy West And Beth Monroe

This season 4 love story was particularly soul-crushing, but also unforgettable. Jeremy West (Marshall Altman) and Beth Monroe (Jurnee Smollett) met when they were being treated at the Mayo Clinic and grew close while attending the same cancer support group. They were reunited when both chose to take part in the clinical trial run by Derek and Meredith.

Jeremy and Beth knew that they were living on borrowed time and neither wanted their lives to end without giving into the love that they felt for one another. Beth was heartbroken when Jeremy was the next in an ever-growing list of casualties resulting from the trial. However, she also wound up being its first successful candidate. She didn’t want to live without Jeremy, but surviving the trial enabled her to help others enduring the same affliction.

9 Memorable: Andrew Langston

Andrew Langston was another season 4 patient. Portrayed by James Immekus, he actually appeared in the same two-parter as Beth and Jeremy, “Freedom’. However, his love story wasn’t nearly as romantic. The poor guy jumped into a vat of cement on a dare in order to impress the girl of his dreams, Lola.

Andrew was brought into the hospital completely encased in cement and almost didn’t survive the experience. Although it took the efforts of several surgeons to save his life, Andrew’s story did have a happy ending. Not only did Andrew live to tell the tale, but Callie even convinced Lola to stop caring about what her mean friends would think. She finally gave into her feelings for him.

8 Want To Forget: Shane

This is nothing against Queer as Folk star Gale Harold, but season 4 patient, Shane, is one who no one wants to remember. The paramedic was injured in an ambulance crash after his partner, Mary, had a seizure while driving. Mary was a black woman, but despite his concern for her well-being, Shane was a racist.

Shane didn’t want to be treated by Bailey, Yang, or Webber, and was sporting an enormously offensive tattoo on his stomach. He was afraid that Bailey wouldn’t work as hard to save his life because of it. Of course, she made every effort to keep him alive and succeeded – marring his precious tattoo in the process. However, George, the only surgeon that Shane approved of, made a point of telling him that the world would be a better place without him in it.

7 Memorable: Nick Marsh

Meredith hasn’t had many love interests since losing Derek, but for a moment there, it seemed like Nick Marsh (Scott Speedman) was going to be one of them. A transplant surgeon who collapsed while retrieving a liver from Grey Sloan Memorial, he appeared in season 14 episode, “One Day Like This”. Nick had had a recent kidney transplant himself and Meredith wound up having to rush him into surgery due to some unforeseen complications from it.

There was definitely chemistry between Nick and Meredith. The two flirted pretty heavily and had a great conversation. In the end, Nick returned to Minnesota and hasn’t been heard from since. That’s okay though, considering Meredith has her hands full with a love triangle this season anyway. Still, it was nice to see them have a moment.

6 Want To Forget: Kalpana Vera

Munchausen syndrome is a real and serious illness, but Kalpana Vera was a particularly irritating patient. According to Kalapna (pronounced Kul-puhna), she was named by villagers in Nepal and interestingly, her full name translates to “imaginary truth.” Kalpana is Hindi for imaginary, while vera is Latin for truth.

Admitted for arrhythmias, Cristina soon became positive that Kalpana’s condition was one that should land her in the psych ward, not under the care of Preston Burke. The most frustrating aspect of this case was watching everyone doubt Cristina because she had recently suffered an ectopic pregnancy. On top of the fact that no one believed her, Cristina was also trapped recovering with her mother in a hospital room all day. We’re all glad that Kalpana got the help that she needed, but no one’s hoping to see her return.

5 Memorable: William Dunn

Perhaps the easiest way to make a serial life taker memorable is to cast Eric Stoltz in the role. He appeared in a three-episode arc during season 5. Responsible for taking the lives of five women, William’s own execution date was looming. However, he was stabbed a week before, so it was up to the hospital to save him… before the state could legally end his life.

Dunn was memorable for different reasons than most of the patients on this list. Stoltz gave an impressive performance and the story raised necessary questions about capital punishment. William almost shuffled off the mortal coil of his own volition so that ten-year-old Jackson Prescott could have the organs that he so desperately needed, but the inmate was too afraid to let go – not that it saved him in the end.

4 Want To Forget: R. Hubble

This season 2 patient, portrayed by Scott Michael Campbell, was admitted to the hospital due to a bowl obstruction. The doctors thought that it was drugs, but in a rather icky twist, R. Hubble caused the issue himself by swallowing the heads of ten Judy dolls – this is also where we learn that Bailey is something of an expert on Judy dolls. She could even tell which was which just by the heads removed from the patient’s stomach.

Hubble is best left forgotten, because does anyone really want to consider his reasons for swallowing these children’s toys? We thought not. The patient even told Meredith that she was better off not knowing and it’s likely that that’s the truth of the matter.

3 Memorable: Kyle Diaz

Played by That 70s Show alum, Wilmer Valderrama, Kyle Diaz had a multi-episode arc in season 12. He was a musician who was living with MS and while in the hospital, he fell hard for Stephanie Edwards. She tried to resist him, but his charms eventually won her over.

Stephanie cared for Kyle, but struggled in their relationship due to the intensity of his illness. She eventually chose to end things. When Kyle wound up back at Grey Sloan Memorial with meningitis, the two seemed bound for reconciliation. Sadly, Kyle never made it through surgery. All Stephanie could do was watch from the gallery, helpless as he slipped away. Kyle hadn’t just won over Stephanie, but viewers as well, and most were sad to see him go.

2 Memorable: Emile Flores

Portrayed by Brian George, Emile Flores appeared in season 6 episode, “Valentine’s Day Massacre.” His story was so engrossing that even Alex and Meredith got caught up in it. Emile was head waiter at popular restaurant. The roof collapsed on Valentine’s Day, injuring many couples out for a romantic dinner. One of them was Mr. and Mrs. Banks. Emile confessed to Alex that he had been in love with her for the past fifteen years, but never said a word, not even when she got married.

The waiter was convinced that Mrs. Banks’s marriage had become a loveless one, but she told Meredith that this was untrue. Mrs. Banks did hear Emile’s admittance of his love for her and although she chose her husband, was still heartbroken when Emile didn’t make it through surgery. Viewers were crushed as well.

1 Memorable: Henry Burton

Just when you thought that patient/doctor romances could never again hit as hard as Denny and Izzie, in walked Scott Foley’s Henry Burton. The future Scandal star not only charmed audiences as the season 7 heart patient, but his doctor, Teddy, as well. Being the kindhearted person that she was, Teddy agreed to marry Henry so that he could use her health insurance to get the surgery that was necessary to save his life.

Despite the contrived way in which their marriage began, Teddy and Henry soon developed very real feelings for one another. When his health further deteriorated, he was rushed into surgery. Although it was Cristina performing the operation, she was not informed of the patient’s identity until she’d already lost him. Seriously, if this one didn’t crush your soul, you might not have one.

Which Grey’s Anatomy patients do you think are the most memorable and which ones would you rather forget? Let us know in the comments!

2019-03-16 05:03:13

Jamie Gerber

20 Storylines True Blood Wants Us To Forget

True Blood, created by Alan Ball, and based on the Charlaine Harris books, was one of HBO’s most popular shows. While most of it was solid, there were some parts of the show that became infuriating to fans and were viewed as a mess. Despite that, the show retained its fanbase, who watched the show regardless of the issues that saw it slow to a sometimes painful slog, especially in its last season. It was gratuitous in nature and often emulated other shows without the depth and clarity. Nevertheless, it was still considered by most to be a fun show worth watching, with great acting, storylines that were interesting (even if they did at times run amok and eventually conk out), good special effects, and vibrancy.

Starring Anna Paquin, Stephen Moyer, Nelsan Ellis, Alexander Skarsgard, among many others, True Blood premiered in September of 2008 and ended in August of 2014. With a new True Blood musical in the works, it seems like a good time to look back at the show, and while it stands to reason that the folks behind the series don’t want fans to forget the show, there were some storylines that seemed to get swept under the rug as time went on. So, it came across as though they wanted viewers to forget those aspects ever existed, and with some of the storylines, we can kind of see why. Here are 20 True Blood Storylines They Want Us To Forget:


Bill Compton managed to hide his Hep V infection pretty well in its early stages, and while he was supposed to have an insatiable hunger, it didn’t show as much. While the Hep V infection was a central point of the last season, it stands to reason that the infection was not exactly the selling point about Bill.

He indulged in flashbacks showing his life before and during the Civil War, and they were a nice touch to foreshadow his ending. But overall, the progression of Bill’s ending upset fans, largely because the reasoning wasn’t exactly solid. He ridiculously refused the cure, and really, he could have just left Bon Temps and the U.S. entirely, or he could have slept for ages, like Lestat in Anne Rice’s The Vampire Chronicles series.


One of the most surprising twists of True Blood was Tara Thornton being turned into a vampire. While it had potential and had a lot of good moments, this seemed like a forced move overall, but it worked for the show, and fans were happy that she was at least still in the series.

However, another twist was that she was ended rather quickly in season seven, and this didn’t go over well with fans at all. Her demise was even sort of cast aside, leading many to question if she was really gone. She ended up being turned into a ghost with little-to-no involvement with the other characters, aside from her mother.


Lafayette Reynolds was unquestionably one of the most interesting characters of the entire series. While his character in the book didn’t last long, in the show, he became one of the major pillars. In season four, Lafayette explored magic and developed a serious relationship with a character named Jesus, who was a brujo. That season largely delved into the development of Lafayette’s abilities and expanded upon his personal life.

Disappointingly, after that season, the whole thing was mostly dropped. Many fans lamented that the exploration of Lafayette as a more central character just sort of faded away. It was disappointing because he was, like a few others, a prime character for a possible spin-off. Unfortunately, Nelsan Ellis tragically passed away in 2017. The actor was well-loved and admired, as much for his roles as who he was as a person.


While the faerie storyline had some interesting parts, it was regarded by many as being a strange add to a show that seemed to be running out of stream. However, it did introduce some well-liked characters and it did explain why Sookie Stackhouse was so different.

As the seasons progressed, that faded into the background as well, aside from Sookie being wanted by all the vampires, and her faerie powers did play a significant role in the last season. Many found it to be a convoluted storyline and not a great sign for the future of the series overall. Though not necessarily a favorite among fans, it didn’t deter them from watching the show.


Given that Jason Stackhouse and Sookie are brother and sister, it would stand to reason that if Sookie is of faerie lineage, Jason should be, too. And while it seemed to be hinted that there was something mystical about Jason – particularly in the fact that nearly everybody seemed irresistibly drawn to him from the moment they met him, it’s sort of passed over as to whether or not Jason is really much more than a human.

At one point, it is established that he did inherit some faerie aspect, which is what made him so attractive to characters in the show, but it’s not something that’s brought up to the extent as it was with Sookie, and he doesn’t have anything close to her abilities.


While Alcide’s passing was marked with a celebration of life party, it was noted that the relationship between Sookie and Alcide had run its course and was out of place on the show, considering how important the bond between her and Bill was supposed to be. Even with their relationship issues, a central point throughout the show was her connection to Bill and the fact that she found a certain peace with him that wasn’t the same with others.

While her mind-reading ability (though still important) took something of a backseat as the show progressed, it still informed her relationships with others. So, the romance between her and Alcide, while it served its purpose, was one that eventually faded from view as the last season progressed.


Though the show tried to establish certain rules and hierarchy for the vampires (and while it was interesting), it wasn’t really a central point in the show. It was mostly used to move certain things forward, like having Jessica live with Bill or dealing with vampire discrimination. There were some major storylines around The Authority and Bill being King (like the attempt by witches to end his life), but it was not really what the show was about at its core.

The fact that Bill didn’t like having to deal with power plays or taking orders (until the Lilith storyline) essentially guaranteed that he wouldn’t want to be in that role for long. Over the course of the show, that was another plot that kind of faded into the background and wasn’t brought up much again after it ended.


While it’s not at all a bad idea to combine mythical creatures, or creating new ones with various abilities, the fairy storyline was not as well-received to begin with. It was an interesting plot when it was revealed that Warlow was a vampire-hybrid, but there weren’t any other vampire-faerie hybrids and it wasn’t incorporated into a mainstay of the show.

It was made to be a big deal while it lasted, but after the issue with Warlow was resolved, it didn’t seem to be something that the show wanted to spend too much time on. That season did have a surprising finale that saw Eric burst into flames, leaving many at the time to wonder if the character survived.


Tara was turned into a silent ghost, which was an unusual departure from her previous role on the show as Sookie’s best friend who was in love with Jason. She went through a number of evolutions and often found herself being drawn to characters that didn’t have her best interests at heart, but she always managed to survive and thrive.

Unfortunately, once her vampire stage ended, she wasn’t doing much. In fact, she didn’t even talk much to the rest of the characters, and although there were a few other ghost storylines, they disappeared rather quickly as well. Few of these went over well with most fans, especially Tara’s treatment, though the actress stated that she had no problem with it.


Werewolves move over, the werepanthers are in town? Maybe not. While it could have been a cool concept that the show explored, it ended up going down a path that upset a lot of fans, namely with Jason being attacked and used to help the werepanthers propagate.

In a show that seemed, on occasion, to use intimate scenes largely as filler, for many fans, the werepanther thing just went too far and wasn’t well-received. It’s an aspect of the show that was never really brought up again. It was something the show tried, maybe in an attempt to bring surprise value and initiate dialogue, but it missed the mark and wasn’t missed when it was gone.


Terry Bellefleur was a war veteran with some unresolved issues. He managed to have a relationship with Arlene and together, they made things work. However, his past came back at an unexpected time and complicated his storyline.

There were few happy endings overall on the show, with most being bittersweet at best. When it was revealed that he had ended the life of an innocent in Iraq, and  was given a “smoke monster” curse (the Ifrit), it was something of a head-scratcher for many who watched the show. At any rate, the curse ended quickly when he eliminated his friend that was also involved in the incident. He later wanted to end his own life and asked someone to do it for him, which disappointed many fans as his character came to a close.


When Jessica burst onto the scene as an innocent-turned-vampire, she was initially something of a “problem child” to Bill. She wasn’t such a nice vamp and she rebelled against rules restraining her from draining people. She also didn’t take kindly to the lessons that Bill tried to teach her about curbing her hunger.

Fast forward a couple of seasons, and it could be argued that it would be difficult to tell her apart from the innocent person she was before she was turned. She still struggled with being a vampire and wanting to do things that weren’t in the best interest of others (like the marriage with Hoyt when he lost his memory), but it’s as if the show wanted to reset her more or less. Her character changes were something of a mixed bag with fans.


When V was introduced, it was a big deal, but as the seasons progressed, it was mentioned less and less. In season seven, Tara’s mother, Lettie Mae, drank vampire plasma in order to see Tara’s ghost, but otherwise, the drug itself wasn’t mentioned much. The concept of vampire and other liquid as an intoxicant did evolve over the seasons, with the additions of Lilith’s and faerie blood.

However, some fans pointed out that there were inconsistencies with the effects and rules of this as laid out by the show. While it’s clear that the reactions were different for people depending on how much they took, what kind, and whether or not they were human, the V-drug epidemic was a piece of the show that naturally ran its course.


The Vampire Authority survived for centuries only to be officially taken out in the fifth season. A clandestine organization headed by vampire leaders, it was significant in introducing vampires to the mainstream world and had some dealings with world governments as an official sovereign authority, as far as policies regarding vampires were concerned.

By the end of season five, most of The Authority were eliminated and not spoken of too often afterward, with their end transitioning into the rise of “Billith.” Like some other plots in the show, even though sometimes fun while they lasted, once it was finished, it more or less dropped out of view.


At the start of season six, Billith is fully introduced. While in the last episode of season five, where he appeared to be transformed into some super-vamp monster, season six initially revealed that he was still Bill Compton, but with additional powers that other vampires didn’t have. However, by season seven, he was just Bill again, and was even susceptible to Hep V just like any other vampire.

His bond with Sookie had been reestablished and he was no longer this formidable vamp estranged from most of those that cared about him. While Billith was a somewhat interesting turn for the character, it didn’t last long and didn’t always sit well with many of the fans.


Once Lafayette was introduced to the show’s version of Wicca, he suddenly became a medium and his body was used as a host for spirits looking to fulfill their quests for closure. Though initially somewhat dangerous due to not knowing she had passed on, the first ghost, Mavis, was harmless enough.

However, the second, Marnie, was the leader of the circle Lafayette was introduced to by his boyfriend Jesus. She was not so harmless and ended up forcing Lafayette (through possessing him) to take his boyfriend’s life. The storyline ended with Marnie getting a la-di-da ending by “leaving behind the cares of the world” with no consequences for her actions. Lame.


It was surprising to many fans to see that Lafayette was not in the last episode much. Considering Lafayette was one of a few characters to be in every episode, to have him sort of pushed aside at the end, as if he wasn’t there from day one, was viewed by many fans as disrespectful and just more proof that the show had lost most of its course.

He has more or less a goodbye monologue, and that’s that. Looking back, it’s clear that the intent wasn’t to be disrespectful to the character or his significance on the show, but many felt that he should have had more screen time and that it would have made the episode better if he did.


For a while, Eric Northman was essentially Sookie’s sick puppy. It was a strange turn for such a powerful character, and while it was initially viewed as adorable and endearing, it ended up wearing out. Fans wanted Eric to return to form as the no-nonsense vamp he was, which happened pretty quickly overall despite his lingering feelings for Sookie.

Pam certainly welcomed the return, since she wasn’t exactly a fan of the resident Stackhouse faerie from the very beginning. Eventually, Eric’s stint as a mostly mind-wiped, “toothless” vamp was erased from the show entirely as he returned to his old ways, though a bit softer in a way that fans welcomed.


The fact that Pam De Beaufort hadn’t made many other vampires wasn’t something the show dwelled on too much. Even after it was revealed that she sired one other vampire in her relationship with Tara wasn’t a big deal.

Sarah Newlin asked Pam to turn her into a vampire and she said no (to say the least). It just wasn’t a part of her make-up, as her primary concern throughout the series was always Eric and her relationship with him. So, the fact that she turned someone else and it was never brought up again wasn’t much of a surprise, though it did leave some fans wondering who she turned. There was speculation that it was Steve Newlin.


After the Hep V virus spread, vampires tried to overrun the world, seemingly starting with places like Bon Temps. Most of the vampires weren’t able to control their hunger, and so, they went on a rampage, trying to satiate themselves as the disease ravaged them.

The Tru Blood stoppage also didn’t help matters. While Hep V and a lack of Tru Blood were important aspects, the “vampires on rampage” slowed down over time, and things mostly focused on the supply of Tru Blood and vamp and human politics. Though some aspects of the storyline didn’t work for some fans, it did have some high-octane fight scenes and interesting characters, like the addition of the Yakuza. By the time the future Bon Temps (with Sookie’s mystery beau) rolled around, Hep V and possible vampire anarchy seemed nothing more than a distant memory.

Are there any other True Blood storylines that should be forgotten from the show? Let us know in the comments!

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20 Characters CW Shows Want Everyone To Forget

When it comes to creating television for the teen demographic, one network has risen above all others in the last decade: The CW. Its programming, which ranges from horror to soap operas to superhero shows, has a wide range of extremely dedicated fans, built from solid writing, timely social dynamics, and very attractive actors. The CW claims a long list of successes, but it isn’t perfect. There are quite a few characters that the shows on the network would very much like everyone to forget.

These characters didn’t work for a variety of reasons. Some left their shows because their actor was moving on, others were axed by the writers because fans didn’t respond well. Pretty much every show in existence has some storyline or some character arc that they wish never happened, and every show has characters that left the story never to return. Not all of the characters on this list were poorly written or badly performed, but none of them wound up a part of the show’s vision in the long run.

From genre shows like the Arrowverse and Supernatural to soap operas like 90210 and Riverdale, the CW’s diverse slate allowed for diverse characters. Not all of them were going to work out. The CW is good about reacting to fan responses, so some characters were cut as a result. Others just didn’t have a place in the future stories the writers wanted to tell. Still other character exits were caused by issues behind the scenes.

Here are 20 Characters CW Shows Want Everyone To Forget.

20 Dick Roman (Supernatural)

Dick Roman was the leader of the Leviathans, the main villains of season 7 of Supernatural. Their whole thing was that they were basically invincible, as it took a very convoluted process to create a weapon that could destroy them. That was kind of it– Leviathans were only interesting because they were hard to beat. Everything else about them was really boring.

After Dick Roman was vanquished, Leviathans disappeared from the show. It’s telling that in Supernatural, which has resurrected or brought back basically every other character, one of its main villains is never even mentioned. It seems pretty likely that the writers (much like the fans) want to forget Roman and his pals ever existed.

19 Mon-El (Supergirl)

Fans seem to be perfectly happy trying to forget Mon-El. In fact, they might have been happier if the show had tried to ditch him sooner, as he was a tricky character at the start. Debuting in Supergirl‘s second season, Mon-El was a classist, misogynist narcissist who took a long time to learn the error of his ways.

Mon-El may have eventually figured things out, but by the time he did, fans were more than ready to say goodbye. After being a fixture in Supergirl‘s second and third seasons, it was announced that the prince of Daxam would not be returning for the fourth. The show seems finally ready to put Mon-El behind it.

18 Linda Park (The Flash)

Linda Park shares the same fate as a lot of female characters who dated Barry Allen before he finally got together with Iris West. Basically, the show’s romance was in a holding pattern until that happened. Barry dated women who eventually left him because he was too focused on Iris and being a superhero.

The Flash sort of tried to rectify this disappearance by bringing in Linda’s alternate reality doppelganger, Dr. Light, a superhero in her own right. She tried to help Team Flash take down Zoom, but ended up relocating to a new city and never returned to the show. Now that Barry and Iris are happily together, the writers may prefer] we all just forgot about her– and the other women Barry dated before Iris.

17 Jenny Humphrey (Gossip Girl)

This one was a real problem for Gossip Girl, as Taylor Momsen’s Jenny Humphrey was one of the most recognizable faces on the show. Her character was also a vital part of the book series upon which the show is based. Momsen’s disinterest in acting and focus on her music career pushed the show to cut its losses and remove her entirely. The show tried to essentially replace her with Ivy Dickens, which didn’t go well.

Gossip Girl moved on, and tried its best to get Jenny’s fans to move on, too. The character reappeared briefly in the series finale, which only made her disappearance more glaring.

16 Bela Talbot (Supernatural)

Supernatural has always been a male-oriented show, with almost every long-running character played by a man. Noticing this, the showrunners tried to change this in seasons two and three. To this end, they first brought in Ellen and Jo Harvelle, who were promptly written out in the second season, and then Ruby the demon and Bela Talbot the thief in the third season.

Bela (played by Lauren Cohan) was immediately elevated to main cast status, but she was still gone by the end of the season. She didn’t have a bad character arc, but nowadays she’s mainly remembered as another point in a long line of female characters bumped off by the show, which Supernatural would love everyone to forget about.

15 Hawkgirl and Hawkman (Legends of Tomorrow)

Legends of Tomorrow is know for being absolutely bonkers, with its chronology, worldbuilding, and cast seemingly changing every season. Because of this, the show nowadays doesn’t much resemble the lineup from just a few seasons ago, back when Vandal Savage was the main villain and Hawkgirl and Hawkman (played by Falk Hentschel and Ciara Renée) were part of the team.

Once Savage was defeated and the first season was over, the writers felt that they couldn’t do anything more with Hawkman and Hawkgirl, and the characters left the show. They haven’t returned since, as the show seems to have definitively moved past that era. In fact, they’ve barely even been mentioned, signaling just how disinterested the writers are in the characters.

14 Markos (Vampire Diaries)

The end of the fifth season of The Vampire Diaries was a weird time, as one antagonist fell and was immediately replaced by another one. That replacement was Markos, the leader of the Travelers, and his reign as the show’s main antagonist lasted a grand total of six episodes.

It seems like every Vampire Diaries fan wants to forget the Travelers story line ever happened. Nobody seemed to like it, and the show did its best to get it over and done with as quickly as possible, never bringing back Markos and his pals after their demise. Markos may have threatened that he would come back one day, but we’re all happy he didn’t make good on it.

13 Nicole Leahy (Gilmore Girls)

CW shows have a bad habit of introducing romantic interests to a main character that will obviously never last. The Arrowverse didn’t start this trend, as it was already well established in the days of Gilmore Girls. One of these was Nicole Leahy, a character who showed up just to give Luke someone to smooch that wasn’t Lorelai.

The annoying thing about Nicole was that her relationship with Luke obviously wasn’t a good idea. From their spontaneous marriage to her betrayal, everyone could tell it wouldn’t last. Once Luke divorced her, she didn’t have a reason to be on the show anymore. Nicole vanished and never returned, and fans would agree with the show in that they’d rather not think about her.

12 Miss Grundy (Riverdale)

Geraldine Grundy is an odd figure in Riverdale, the explosive teen drama based on the classic Archie comics. Miss Grundy was Riverdale High’s music teacher who gained a ton of notoriety when she hooked up with Archie just prior to the pilot episode. When this initial arc concludes, she largely vanishes from the show and is then unceremoniously bumped off.

Miss Grundy was targeted by the Black Hood in season two for having another ill-considered relationship with a student, and once she was deceased the show mostly forgot about her. Her only contributions to the plot were her predatory relationships and her demise, and now that she’s gone the show definitely would rather just stop talking about her.

11 Ronnie Raymond (The Flash)

Ronnie Raymond was originally one half of Firestorm, a superhero partnership with Dr. Martin Stein. Ronnie ended up getting axed, though, as his actor (Robbie Amell) didn’t stick around in the Arrowverse. Because the actor was leaving, Ronnie was written out, exploding in a singularity, and a new character became the second half of Firestorm.

Ronnie could have been a major character in The Flash and the rest of the Arrowverse, as the show seemed to tease that he’d come back to romance Caitlin Snow. Instead, he went out like a hero. Nowadays, it’s rare for Ronnie to even be mentioned, and he certainly isn’t getting a resurrection anytime soon.

10 Lady Kenna (Reign)

The problem with characters that only seem to exist to prove that another character is evil is that they can’t stand on their own merits. Lady Kenna did this for King Henry II on Reign, acting as his woman on the side, despite his obviously abusive tendencies. After a drawn out arc where she got with Henry and then was forced by him to marry Sebastian, she finally left the show for good.

Kenna seemed to only exist to be oppressed by Henry and prove that he was a bad guy. Once he got her married off, she apparently had no more use in the story, and left the show entirely after the second season. Clearly, the writers were only interested in Kenna as long as she was a tool to understand Henry, so once he was gone, everyone forgot about her.

9 Susan Williams (Arrow)

Much like Barry Allen on The Flash, Oliver Queen on Arrow has his own share of former love interests that were thrown by the wayside so he could get with his endgame relationship. For Ollie, that endgame is Felicity Smoak, and her romantic rivals include forgettable entries like Susan Williams (Carly Pope).

Nothing about Susan was interesting. A reporter who debuted in season five, she had an relationship with Oliver over the course of several episodes, before he broke up with her to “keep her safe.” Even this ending is cookie cutter; the same line dozens of superheroes have told dozens of failed relationships. Oliver was always going to end up with Felicity– Pope just had the thankless role of being a placeholder. Now that she’s out of the picture, the show would like everyone to forget her and focus on “Olicity.”

8 Tabitha Wilson (90210)

One of the big gets for the first season of 90210′s 2008 remake was Jessica Walter, the actress perhaps best known for her work on Arrested Development and Archer. Walters didn’t end up staying on the show for long, as she never returned after the first season.

Playing Tabitha Wilson, Walter affected much of the plot of the first season of 90210, but completely disappeared by the start of season two thanks to producers restructuring the show and axing some cast members. The writers explained this away by saying the character was living in Las Vegas, and there were reports that she would return in a guest role, but that never materialized. The show was committed to moving in a different direction, even if fans wanted Tabitha back.

7 Catalina (Jane the Virgin)

Manipulative, deceitful characters are a tricky dynamic to nail, as they frequently feel like a distraction from the main arc of the show. Catalina Mora was definitely a distraction, as she burst onto Jane the Virgin, lingered for a few episodes, then left and never returned.

At first she seemed to introduce a fun new conflict, having a fling with Rafael that made Jane jealous. Then her secret marriage was discovered, and Catalina left the show, leaving fans to wonder why she was ever introduced in the first place. The show seems committed to pretending she never existed, and we’d be very surprised if she was brought back for any reason in the final season.

6 Lieutenant Suzuki (iZombie)

iZombie is a unique entry in the CW’s programming slate, a meta adaptation of a comic book series of the same name about zombies functioning in society and also occasionally solving crimes. In the show, that meant working with Lieutenant Suzuki, but he ended up perishing in the show’s confusing season one finale.

Suzuki turned out to be working for Blaine DeBeers, the villain of the show, who had turned him into a zombie. Suzuki then blew himself up rather than live on as a zombie, in a somewhat unclear turn of events. There are still fans confused about what exactly happened in that season one finale, but the show never seemed to care to explain itself.

5 Callie Cartwig (The 100)

Viewers of the pilot episode of The 100 must have been confused in later episodes, as there was a main cast member who simply disappeared. That was Callie Cartwig, aka CeCe, who was supposed to be a major character in the show. Due to budgetary concerns, the character was cut and never returned.

This was unfortunate, as Callie, played by Kelly Hu, was actually pretty interesting. She had a nice arc in the first episode that definitely didn’t hint at her untimely demise, and then she was floated into space off camera. You don’t usually see main characters get completely cut out of a show like that, but network television finds a way, as everything about Callie’s storyline and relationships was forgotten forever.

4 Cecil Adams (Arrow)

The first few seasons of Arrow have many bright spots, including their villains, but they messed up some key figures from the comics. Count Vertigo is one of the Green Arrow’s greatest foes in the comics, but you wouldn’t know it from his depiction in the early years of the show.

On Arrow, Count Vertigo is originally Cecil Adams, a young addict who tries to poison Star City with the powerful Vertigo. Adams never really impressed in his tenure as the Count, and he was bumped off pretty quickly. Werner Zytle took over that mantle, and as played by Peter Stormare, was immediately more memorable and threatening as a villain. Nowadays, the writers would probably prefer that everyone thinks of Zytle as the true Vertigo, and forgets about poor Cecil.

3 Joe Bishop (Beauty and the Beast)

Joe Bishop (played by Brian White) was the police chief on Beauty and the Beast who clashed with Vincent in the first season. Joe was a major character in the early going, but he was gone from the show entirely by the beginning of season two.

Joe’s exit followed a season where his arc found him in a few unsavory situations, where he strayed from his wife and then tried to go outside the law to take down Vincent. Fans didn’t really connect with Joe’s arc, and the show seems to have responded by removing him entirely, choosing instead to focus on other cop characters in his place.

2 Ethan Ward (90210)

Much like Tabitha Wilson, Ethan Ward was a main cast member of 90210 that wound up a victim of the show going a different direction for the second season. As with Tabitha, the writers of the show explained his absence by saying he moved away– this time to Montana to live with his dad, which honestly sounds like the teen soap opera version of an old dog getting taken to a nice farm.

Ethan never came back from Montana and never made another appearance on the show, as the producers really were married to this new vision for 90210. He may not have had quite as many fans as Tabitha, but fans were still puzzled as to why the show seemed so committed to losing these characters.

1 Davis Bloome (Smallville)

Superhero shows have a history of failing to live up to lofty expectations created by the comics, but they don’t usually mess it up this badly. Davis Bloome (played by Sam Witwer) was a perfectly fine character on Smallville, until he was revealed to actually be the superpowered monster, Doomsday.

It just didn’t work. Davis convinced no one that he could pull off the role of the villain who eliminated Superman in the comics. After that reveal, Davis’ days on the show were numbered. He finished out the eighth season, and then never came back. Smallville’s showrunners likely want everyone to forget that they disappointed their fans this badly.

What other CW characters are best forgotten? Let us know in the comments!

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20 Things Wrong With American Horror Story We All Choose To Ignore

The horror anthology hit TV show American Horror Story just might be the magnum opus of Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuck. Scarier and more riveting than any of the duo’s other projects, the spine-tingling series features a new theme and characters every season that are all still linked to each other’s universe. From the casting announcements to the series hints, theme reveals, and each season’s unique introductory visuals, it’s riveting entertainment all around. Even so, some seasons fall further off the mark than others, with many episodes barely even registering on the “horror” radar while others left us scratching our heads wondering what the heck just happened.

The thing is, we tend to give glaring errors, plot flops, and other things wrong with the show a pass because we love it so much. From intriguing horror to irresistible characters, from unexpected plot twists to some of the best storytelling on TV, American Horror Story keeps us coming back, not because it’s flawless but because it’s still addictive despite, and sometimes because of, its many flaws.

We might love a character and conveniently forget that he or she is a monster. We’ll keep tuning in even after an entire sequence left us feeling disgusted, embarrassed for the actress who had to play out the scene, or even angry at the creators themselves. It’s just that addictive.

We love it and we’ll keep coming back for me, even with these 20 Things Wrong With American Horror Story We All Choose To Ignore.

20 Some Seasons Aren’t Scary

With a name like American Horror Story, you might expect every episode to be a scream-fest. That’s just not the case, especially in seasons four and five. While there’s no shortage of horror-inducing characters in these seasons, they didn’t really give us nightmares like previous and subsequent seasons were able to do.

Were we jaded from all the mutants, ghosts, zombies, and other creatures in previous seasons?

Both Freak Show and Hotel fell short on promises of terror, often vying for more intense drama (a calling card of Falchuck and Murphy) instead. While we still received interesting stories, Gaga’s vampire and Twisty the Clown just weren’t all that scary.

19 There’s No Reason Given For All The Hotel Vampire Kids

In season five, Hotel, Lady Gaga’s character, The Countess Elizabeth, is a little less fabulous than we expected her to be. Perhaps she couldn’t live up to the Gaga we all know and love already. One of the things that just made zero sense about the character was her propensity to collect children and turn them into little vampires. Does Elizabeth have an old woman in the shoe complex? Is she just that bored? What is the point?

Here’s the thing about kids in horror movies: they add instant scare-factor. Take a look at most scary film kids, from Village of the Damned to The Others and you’ll see the scariest moments. The fact that the vampire kid collection wasn’t even scary was a pretty big letdown.

18 Teeth Fall From The Sky For No Reason

Season six of AHS, Roanoke, was able to recover some of the lost ground from the previous two less-scary seasons but still suffered from the lack of the one and only Jessica Lang. The season saw a return to the haunted house theme, always popular in AHS history, and wove in some new elements, like the whole “based on a true story” theme.  Between Deliverance-like hillbillies and more incredible Kathy Bates, Roanake was much better-received than Hotel, but it had some weird unexplained moments, like teeth randomly falling from the sky.

Not only do the teeth inexplicably fall while Matt is at work, but they also disappear.

The reason why is never given, prompting us to chalk this one up to “random scare tactic.”

17 Queenie Tried To Hook Up With A Minotaur

While we definitely applaud Murphy and Falchuck’s use of mythology throughout American Horror Story, it often makes no sense. Gabourey Sidibe was fantastic as Queenie, the young and lonely witch who gave as well as she got, used LaLaurie as her own personal racist slave, and really deserved main credits billing. But there was that one time she tried to hook up with a grotesque Minotaur…

While the inclusion of adult content is pretty standard in AHS, getting involved with a man who has bull’s head sewed over his own is pretty far out there. It didn’t make any sense, nor did Queenie’s own survival following the incident (or anything else including the Minotaur, really), so we just move along and say that there’s nothing to see here.

16 Zoe’s Hell Is Just Life Without Kyle

Zoe Benson, portrayed by Taissa Farmiga, starts out as a compelling character in the third season of American Horror Story, Coven. She has unique powers that pay homage to classic horror and a long journey ahead.

Tossing in a love interest is a great way to derail a personal growth story.

That’s what happened to Zoe with Kyle, her resurrected boyfriend played by Evan Peters. While we’re glad that Murphy and Falchuck used Kyle to illustrate that mothers can be abusive to their sons just as much as fathers can, “life without Kyle” as Zoe’s own personal hell is really stupid and overly angst-ridden.

15 Aliens In Asylum Makes No Sense

When it comes to American Horror Story, many fans reacted to the inclusion of aliens in season two, Asylum, in the same way that fans of Indiana Jones reacted to the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. For many horror fans, aliens don’t enter the territory without very specific rules, and you certainly don’t add aliens into an already-existing story for a scare factor.

The aliens of AHS also just weren’t scary. Sure, they made Pepper more interesting and gave convenient explanations for a few weird happenings, but at the end of the day mixing aliens in with mutants, a mean nun, demons, and war criminals just doesn’t work. It’s a hodgepodge of plot devices tossed together like a salad with too many kinds of dressing. Sometimes simpler is just better.

14 The Musical Sequences

We get that Sister Jude is losing her mind in this tenth episode of season two, Asylum, but must we lose ours as well? The episode itself was gripping, but watching Jessica Lange sashay through “The Name Game” wasn’t nearly as eerie as it should have been. It played off as more of an homage to the creators’ Glee in a way that didn’t work.

While some critics enjoyed the mind-boggling number, many of us like to pretend it never happened.

It’s not the last time the showrunners implemented a bit of music and dance, either. Season four, Freak Show, featured several ditties, including a rendition of “Come As You Are” by Evan Peters, Sarah Paulson’s “Dream a Little Dream of Me”, and Lange singing David Bowie’s “Life on Mars”.

13 What Happens To Dr. Arden’s Experiments?

The mutants created in Dr. Arden’s horrific experiments are the stuff of nightmares, and they definitely present an interesting side story among the rest of the godawful happenings at Briarwood Manor in season two of American Horror Story, Asylum. Their issue, of course, is that they disappear off the radar without much of a peep.

Once turned into a mutant and taken to a hospital, Shelley, played by Chloë Sevigny as a homage to the many women unjustly committed to asylums throughout history, seems as if she may be able to lead the authorities toward Arden, but alas, Joseph Fiennes’ conflicted yet greedy Monsignor Timothy Howard takes her out instead. We don’t hear much about them afterward. What happened to the mutants?

12 The Messed-Up Historical Figures

Anne Frank was lobotomized by the evil Dr. Arden from Briarcliff Manor in season two, Asylum. Not only does this make zero sense, but it also really does a disservice to Anne Frank’s memory. There is a lot of artistic license taken with historical figures throughout American Horror Story, from Delphine Lalaurie to James March. Even characters used as backgrounds for new characters, like Nellie Bly’s inspiration for Lana Winters, often seems a bit much, especially when the representation is so loose.

The misrepresentation or grand re-representation of historical figures is nothing new.

Our own history books present complete falsehoods about everyone from Christopher Columbus to Paul Revere. Perhaps it’s just so glaring because we acknowledge that now, particularly during an age of “fake news” awareness.

11 The Opening Sequence And Spoilers Promise More Than We Get

One of the most exciting elements of a new season of American Horror Story is always the opening sequence and the slowly-revealed spoilers. Cast announcements and cool visuals trickle in until we finally get to see that first episode with its incredible casting graphics. The creepy opening sequence does much more than announce the cast: it revs us up like the announcer for a really scary joust about to take place.

The only problem is that it often goes downhill from there. While season 1 typically delivered, the casting graphics in seasons like Freak Show were actually scarier than the episodes themselves. That’s a real problem if we are supposed to be watching a horror program.

10 We Have No Idea What Happened To The Pig Boys

They were a successful execution of “the scary children” in a way that the little vampire entourage of the previous season just couldn’t seem to manage, so maybe that’s why Murphy and Falchuck decided to never let the “pig boys” of season six be seen again.

Aside from the fact that the boys could have made for some truly scary storytelling, the problem here isn’t just that they had no deeper involvement in the story than “check out these creepy kids” but that they don’t even have a resolution. Why the kids say, “Croatoan!” and why they drink pig milk remains unknown, and we may never know what happened to the charming little tykes.

9 No Consequences for the bad things the “good guys” do

As fans of American Horror Story, we sure do forgive a lot of murderers, don’t we? When someone bad finally goes good, all of their wicked deeds don’t seem to be as problematic. Even sweet Nan takes out Joan. Misty Day, otherwise a kind hippie, offs a couple of guys with alligators.

Were these warranted attacks? Maybe, but that doesn’t erase the fact that many characters end the lives of others and we pretty much turn a blind eye toward it like we wouldn’t if they occurred in real life. Of course, from people returning from the grave to mutant attacks near an asylum, there’s really not a lot in the show that applies to real life.

8 There’s Really No War Between The Coven And The Voodoo Witches

During season three, Coven, there’s a big build up about an oncoming war between the coven and the voodoo witches of the area. Both are led by powerful women, and who wasn’t excited to see Fiona, played by Jessica Lange, and Marie Laveau, played by Angela Bassett, go up against one another?

While there was plenty of tension and a zombie attack, it pretty much stopped there, especially after the witch hunters came to town.

AHS often builds up to something we’re expecting and completely abandon it for another plot instead. While we get that they want to keep us on our toes, broken promises do leave us unsatisfied and underwhelmed.

7 Zoe And Madison Gave Their Souls To Azaezel And It Never Came Up Again

When the bus full of frat boys who assaulted Madison wrecks, taking out all of the monsters on board on Madison’s whim, it’s satisfying. Even seeing Kyle taken out doesn’t bother some of us, given that we’ve already seen Evan Peters return from the grave before and wouldn’t be surprised if he returned. He may have stopped his “brothers” but he certainly tried to help them not get caught, making him complicit in the attack.

When Zoe and Madison decide to put “boy parts” together to resurrect Kyle as the perfect Frankenstein boyfriend, they sell their souls to Azaezel in order to do so, and yet it never comes up again. Given that both girls bite the dust during the show, shouldn’t that at least be an issue?

6 Roanoke’s Reality Show Inception

It was one of the most pointless plot points to ever be inserted into a season of American Horror Story. During season six, Roanoke, we’re treated to a reality show type of setting where re-enactors help us understand what happened to the Millers in “My Roanoke Nightmare”, an obvious play on so many other popular reality-based ghost hunting and experience shows. That’s an intriguing concept that works well for much of the season, but then we’re hit with reality-ception.

Getting all of the actors and people involved in actual events together for the blood moon event is one thing, but what about the disclaimer that nobody even survived the ordeal? If that’s true (which makes sense, since this is Roanoke), how did we get the footage in the first place?

5 There’s No Point To Scathach

Scathach, the mythical warrior from the Isle of Skye in Irish folklore, is an incredible character. It’s too bad we didn’t really get to know her in season six, Roanoke.

Lady Gaga’s Scathnach has a plethora of powers, is said to be the first Supreme and yet has no real point in the series.

The witch does a few nefarious things here and there, from purchasing souls to rendering people evil and insane, but in the grand scheme of things she has no real point except to serve as one of those random elements of horror woven in to just be spooky. Given the history of the traditional character, it would be amazing to see Murphy and Falchuck to use this as a tie-in for a more myth-heavy season.

4 People Are Constantly Offed Only To Be Brought Back

Character losses in the American Horror Story realm are pretty much like those in any comic book series: you don’t ever count them as permanent. Even when an entire series ends and you believe a character to be truly gone, they may return in another season! It’s definitely not a new tactic to have characters return from the grave; it’s a strategy used in everything from Dallas to Supernatural.

It makes us feel a little more jaded and a little less invested when tragedy does strike.

Oh, Fiona is sick? Oh, Ethel’s not going to make it? It’s too often meaningless. We want to feel affected, and we can’t help but worry a bit because we do love these characters, but deep down we’re always still wondering when they’ll return.

3 Twisty’s “Resolution” Is Basically A Deus Ex Machina

Season four’s big villain, Twisty the Clown, turned out to be much more Bozo than Pennywise. Sure, he was scary-looking, and he had the tragic backstory to boot, but Twisty’s crimes felt more garden variety scary movie than the monstrous panache we’d expect from AHS.

Twisty, played by John Carroll Lynch, even had a disappointing resolution as a character. Not only was he never really sorted out by a main character or a victim bent on revenge, but he was literally yanked out of the show to join Edward Mordrake’s nightmarish troupe, collecting the clown’s soul after hearing his tale of woe.

2 Misty Day Was Unjustly Lost

One of the characters fans most resonated with in season three, Coven, was Misty Day, played by the talented Lily Rabe. Misty’s character screamed Supreme, from her unique abilities to her lack of really caring about the position.

Misty was all about fairness, being kind to animals, and protecting the vulnerable, making her a fantastic character to root for.

Unfortunately she was also a red herring. Falchuck and Murphy offed her in such a terrible way in a Hell made up of her own personal vivisection nightmare, which made zero sense given her ability to bring things back to life so easily. Misty didn’t deserve her ending, but neither did Nan and many other characters.

1 Tate Is A School Shooter

Tate Langdon is one of the most romanticized characters in the history of AHS. The season 1 character is a doting friend, devoted boyfriend who would do anything for Violet, and speaks volumes of teen angst to many a smitten heart. It doesn’t hurt that Evan Peters, who plays Tate, is easy on the eyes as well. Is that why it’s so hard to remember that Langdon is such a deplorable character?

Tate is a school shooter. He took the lives of several classmates and should represent what we most despise and do not condone in this nation right now. He also assaulted Violet’s mother, Vivian, causing her to become pregnant with his Antichrist baby. How can anyone still crush on this guy knowing what harm he’s done?

What other problems with American Horror Story do fans overlook? Let us know in the comments!

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2018-10-10 08:10:37 – Sara Schmidt

15 Rules The Cast Of Counting Cars Is Forced To Obey

The guys working at Count’s Kustoms may not seem like a the type who are keen on rule-following, and, for the most part, that is true. There really aren’t all that many stated rules in the domain of Danny Koker and crew, but everyone has lines that they would prefer remain uncrossed.

That said, Danny and the crew of Counting Cars do have a few unstated laws that must be adhered to on the set. While the History network may not be as interested in staging dramatics and scenarios as their competitors, that isn’t to say that they haven’t laid out a few orders which need to be followed in order to keep the show interesting for the viewer. It may betray the tough guy bravado of the show, but rules are rules, no matter how many hot rods you’ve restored.

Some of these rules are relatively petty and simple, while others might raise an eyebrow or two and hint at a darker history behind these Las Vegas-based body shop workers. Danny, Mike and company haven’t caused all that many controversies when compared to some other big-name reality TV stars out there, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t have a couple of skeletons in their closet. Again, there don’t appear to be all that many hard-and-fast rules on the set of Counting Cars, but there are at least a few things that cast members know to keep an eye out for.

Here are the 15 Rules The Cast Of Counting Cars Is Forced To Obey.

15 Only Approach Certain People About Their Cars

A major focal point of many Counting Cars episodes is Danny’s frequent run-ins with random car owners. He’s often been filmed approaching people on the street or following someone home in order to track them down and make a deal for their car. These moments are, as most viewers may have guessed, almost always staged.

This is a pretty important rule for the cast to follow, however, as following hot rod owners home and offering to buy their cars is a pretty good way to creep out your clientele and make viewers think you’re a huge weirdo.

While Danny may have done something like this once or twice in his private life, these instances are commonly pre-arranged for the show. Stalking someone with the intent of bartering for their car is probably illegal anyway, though it does make for some interesting TV. Most of the Counting Cars guys aren’t actors by trade, either, and their performance sort of ruins the facade at times.

14 Get Every Fact Straight

If there’s one rule that Danny Koker does his best to follow, it is this one. Danny and the rest of the Counting Cars crew have frequently been called out and ridiculed by trivia-loving car aficionados for small mistakes they have made on air. Event the smallest of inaccuracies get pointed out, and it may call the integrity of Count’s Kustoms into question for the hardest of the hardcore.

For instance, Danny was once noted to have been incorrect about the year in which Chevy first started producing the Corvette: he said it was 1954, but it was actually 1952. It is a mistake he has yet to live down in some circles, and he’s since been sure to get his facts straight when he’s on camera.

13 Keep an Eye Out

Again, this isn’t necessarily a written rule, and it may seem like common sense for most business owners, but Danny and the rest of the guys working at Count’s Kustoms need to do their best to make sure burglary and theft aren’t taking place under their noses. This may sound like a no-brainer, but these things have happened more than once in the autoshop’s history.

From stolen trailers to ransacked houses and full-on employee embezzlement cases, Counting Cars hasn’t had a totally spotless run.

As a result, the guys at Count’s Kustoms need to keep an eye on their surroundings as well as on their co-workers, which doesn’t exactly create grounds for a healthy work environment.

12 The Customer is Always Right

The guys at Count’s Kustoms have taken on some pretty ludicrous jobs over the years, and this is partially because, as a rule, they try not to refuse any customization requests. This definitely isn’t something that’s been set in stone, as Koker and his employees have certainly turned some people away over the course of the show’s history, but it rarely ever happens.

Though they specialize in motorcycles and cars, the Counting Cars crew has accepted vans, busses, and even boats in the past, which certainly made for some interesting TV. It probably isn’t in Danny’s best interest to take on literally every project which comes through his door, but they certainly seem to try.

11 Keep Them Coming

Time is money, and the crew working behind the scenes at Count’s Kustoms sure like to keep busy. Though Counting Cars never really gets into the inner workings of the shop, Danny has said that they never have fewer than fifteen projects going at one time.

Given that each project is a pretty hefty investment in terms of time and resources, this is a pretty major commitment.

As a result, Count’s Kustoms has taken on a bunch of new employees over the years, and they don’t seem to show any signs of slowing down any time soon. Though the show’s popularity may eventually fade, Danny and his employee’s work probably won’t.

10 Stick to the Budget

Danny Koker is known to be very conservative both politically and fiscally. He is extremely protective of his money despite the fact that he has plenty of it to spare, and he never overspends except in very particular situations. Though it may not be an explicitly laid out rule in his shop, Danny’s employees are doubtlessly aware of the fact that they really need to stick to a budget.

The Count himself has shown his financially conservative nature when haggling, and he has been known to walk away from deals he finds unfair. This doesn’t show up all that often in the show, of course, because most of the drama is scripted and most of the bartering has already been pre-arranged. Those close to Danny, however, will know the truth.

9 Don’t Rush It

Count’s Kustoms may take on no fewer than fifteen projects at a time, but most of these projects take quite a while to complete. This is never really shown on the show, though, as the Counting Cars producers like to expedite things for the sake of viewer interest, but customization jobs are known to take 12 to 24 months to complete on average.

This may sound like an insane amount of time, but there really aren’t many places in the world that offer customization options like Count’s Kustoms.

Though some projects cruise through the shop in as little as ninety days, most employees know not to rush things.

8 Don’t Mention Danny’s Dad

Danny Koker’s father, a well-respected man who taught Danny everything he knows about autobody customization, bequeathed his extensive collection of rare cars to his son when he passed away. These vehicles hold an incredible amount of sentimental value to the Count’s Kustoms owner, and, though he has shown parts of the collection off in recent years, he doesn’t like to work on them.

Danny has said that his father’s passing is still a tough subject for him, and, as a result, most of his employees know better than to bring it up. In fact, even Counting Cars regulars should know better than to mention those cars or suggest working on them. While this may one day change, it remains a point of contention in Danny’s garage.

7 Don’t Bring up the Bandana

This really isn’t an unspoken rule, as Danny’s look has been the subject of occasional workplace antics over the years, but it should be said that Danny doesn’t seem all that keen to reveal what’s going on underneath his iconic bandana.

Many have speculated that he is covering some sort of facial deformity or unsightly tattoo, while others believe that he is abnormally committed to his rock-and-roll look.

The most likely explanation is that he isn’t eager to show off his receding hairline. Though this is little more than speculation, it does explain why Danny is often pretty defensive in regards to his dress. Those close to him might poke fun, but fans may want to avoid the subject.

6 Be Careful When Haggling

Danny Koker has stated on multiple occasions that the success of his show has made haggling at car shows much more difficult. As a typical enthusiast, the Count never seemed to have a problem getting his way on the showroom floor.

However, once his profile was raised, sellers began recognizing him more often and attempting to upsell him. This has become a major headache to the penny-pinching autobody overhauler, and anyone working with him should ensure that they don’t overpay when bartering. Danny is most likely very grateful for all of the good that the show has done his business over the years, though he could almost certainly go without this one annoying quirk.

5 Don’t Mention Danny’s Family

In keeping with his conservative values, Danny Koker typically doesn’t like to reveal all that much about his family or his private life. This is completely fair, and most Counting Cars fans will understand that his reality TV star status doesn’t require him to relay all of his personal matters to the public.

That said, Danny is abnormally protective of his loved ones, and very little is known about his wife and kids.

His wife, Korie Koker, co-owns Count’s Vamp’d Rock Bar & Grill with her husband, though her private life remains largely undisclosed. Counting Cars cast members should almost certainly know better than to go prying into Danny’s personal life while the cameras are rolling.

4 Don’t Break The Fourth Wall

The guys on Counting Cars may seem like larger-than-life celebrities at times, but it is important to remember that they are actually people, and Count’s Kustoms is an actual business that will continue to operate independently of the show once the production crew heads home.

That said, though it may be an actual business, much of the situations covered on the show aren’t genuine. Whether played up for the sake of drama or totally fictional, much of the on-air hijinx covered on Counting Cars is dramatized. The Counting Cars cast is careful not to break the illusion, though, and everyone seems pretty eager to play along. There seems to be a rule against fourth wall breaks while on set, and it seems to have gone pretty much unbroken over the years.

3 Politics Are a No-Go

In today’s radically partisan climate, few shows are all that eager to take sides or show any sort of political bias at all. That said, Counting Cars star Danny Koker was an avid supporter of the current leader of the United States during his campaign in 2016. This should come as no surprise given his conservative background, but it remains a major point of contention among many viewers.

Rather than bring up a potentially costly political debate on-air, the Counting Cars crew is pretty careful to keep their lips sealed concerning the subject.

The time may well come when things of that nature can be discussed more freely, but Count’s Kustoms is better off free of political drama for the time being.

2 Forget About Scott Jones

Scott Jones, the ornery store manager featured in the first and second seasons of Counting Cars, isn’t brought up all that much these days. He was hardly mentioned at all in the third season, and he seems to have been totally absent from every subsequent episode since then.

Fans have speculated that he was actually fired as a result of an embezzlement scheme, while others believe he simply grew tired of the daily grind and returned to his hometown. It’s tough to know exactly what happened to Jones, though none of the Counting Cars cast members seem all that eager to bring it up. This probably isn’t an explicitly stated rule, but most will know better than to bring up Scott on camera.

1 Don’t Deal With Vince Neil

Show lead and shop owner Danny Koker has met quite a few celebrities through his business, and his rock-and-roll band side project has also put him in contact with some pretty interesting characters. Koker has, in one way or another, come to be pretty good friends with ex-Motley Crue vocalist Vince Neil.

Though it started out as a pretty lucrative relationship for Koker and his show, the Counting Cars cast soon decided that their relationship with Neil was detrimental to the show’s good standing.

After that, they by-and-large disbanded any professional connections to the singer, though Koker and Neil are said to have remained friends. Even so, it isn’t likely that the ex-rocker will be making any appearances on the show any time soon. The bottom line is that Vince is bad news, and the cast can’t mention him anymore.

Are there any other rules that the cast of Counting Cars has to follow? Let us know in the comments!

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2018-10-09 05:10:54 – Tanner Fox

20 Storylines Shameless Wants Everyone To Forget

With the announcement that Emmy Rossum and Cameron Monaghan will leave the series following the ninth season of Shameless, the Gallagher household is prepping for a major shake-up on the casting front. The creator of the Showtime series John Wells has remained open about a future Fiona return, though he has also stated that there are many more dysfunctional tales left to be told for the Gallagher clan.

For eight seasons, Shameless has remained consistent in the deplorable decision-making skills of its characters, though the series’ depiction of a low-income family living below the poverty line has always been at the forefront. As the strong matriarch who single-handedly raised her siblings while her father wasn’t around, Fiona’s absence is sure to shift more focus towards the show’s younger stars as writers hope fans will soon forget her. Ian’s storyline in season 9 drove much of the action, so Monaghan’s exit will surely leave a whole as well.

Whether they’re dealing with the changing gentrification of their community or watching as another beloved character takes their leave, the Gallaghers have proven time and again that they can adapt better than anyone. From the show’s debut back in 2011 until now, the stars of the series have been forced to mature, sometimes faster than they wanted to. Along the way, there have been many entertaining or even head-scratching subplots which have since been left behind. Although the changes are nothing new to the Gallaghers, they have left many questions up in the air for fans.

Join us as we take a look back at 20 Storylines Shameless Wants Everyone to Forget.

20 Frank and Bianca

After Sammi shoots Frank in the arm to teach him a valuable lesson about courtesy, she forces him to visit the hospital to have his wound checked. During his stay, he begins bonding with his distraught doctor Bianca, whose diagnosis of stage three pancreatic cancer has left her with a new lease on life. Attempting to persuade her to live life to the fullest, Frank offers to teach her how to live carelessly, which includes a copious amount of substance abuse.

Although Frank’s time with Bianca was intended as a heart-wrenching moment which left him reeling the following season, it was never clear why the successful, young doctor would choose to spend her remaining days with him. With her money, she could seemingly spend her days anywhere. There’s little reason to believe Frank would appear as an enticing option.

19 Lip’s Sports Gambling Internship

With an exceptionally high IQ, Lip isn’t the standard member of the Gallagher household, though his self-sabotaging personality has prevented him from achieving a legitimate career. Accepted into the University of Chicago, he threw away his future after an assault on a campus guard led to his expulsion. Following a stint in rehab, Lip secured an internship with a tech start-up, thanks to his friend, Professor Youens.  Soon, however, he discovered the truth behind the company. His co-workers were using proxy servers to hide illegal sports gambling activities.

Although the crooked start-up appeared as a perfect match, nothing would come of it.

He temporarily used a wire fraud scheme to steal cash from the company, but in due time, the start-up went under and Lip was left without a career goal once again.

18 Kevin Discovers His Kentucky Heritage

Season eight concluded with a strange hodgepodge of storylines for Kevin, which included a search for self-identity as he tracked down his biological parents and found himself in Kentucky. Once he arrived, he was introduced to Aunt Ronnie and the rest of the family, immediately settling in and recalling his past as Little Barty. Unfortunately, V immediately sensed something wrong about the group, apart from their offhanded racist remarks.

As a small child, the low-income family struggled to properly raise Kev, resorting to abandoning him at a roadside gas station. He eventually learned to accept his heritage, although he seemed to quickly forget all about it soon after. Kev would have other moments of a self-identity crisis in season eight, including exploring his possible attraction to men, but his Kentucky lineage would ultimately become an afterthought.

17 Fiona Marries Gus, Then Immediately Cheats on Him

Speaking of his character on Shameless, star Steve Kazee said Fiona’s former husband Gus Pfender “got a really raw deal” over the way his storyline ended. After meeting the eldest Gallagher sibling, the two went from strangers to married seemingly overnight.

When Jimmy’s return visit catches Fiona off guard, she’s faced with an ultimatum.

Either run away with Jimmy or stay with Gus, whom she’s known for a few days. Her reaction is to throw away her newfound relationship for the temptation of her ex-boyfriend. She cheats on Gus then immediately regrets it, but by then it’s too late. Her marriage to Gus is over and any remnants of it are completely forgotten by the writing staff.

16 Debbie Steals a Baby

Before Debbie was doing crazy things like stealing expensive baby strollers to support Frances or having Liam amputate her toes to avoid undergoing a pricey surgery on her crushed foot, she was just a lonely girl looking for a playmate.

In the episode “Casey Casden”, Debbie grows tired of playing with a sack of potatoes decorated to look like a baby.

Rather than asking for a new doll, she takes matters into her own hands when she lures a three year old boy back to the Gallagher residence. The Gallaghers then spend the episode concocting a plan to call in false sightings of the child with the cops finally finding him with Debbie, who acts like she found him wandering around Chicago. Needless to say, it was a crazy storyline that the show’s producers haven’t attempted since.

15 Anything Involving Sammi or Chuckie

Frank’s estranged daughter Sammi is first introduced in season four after Frank discovers his liver in failing. Posing as a Good Samaritan, he begins dating her to grow closer before dropping the devastating bombshell. Oddly enough, however, she’s not disgusted at all by the news and even embraces her new father figure, despite his countless shortcomings.

By season five, Sammi has acquainted herself enough with the Gallaghers to move into the household, though she was never invited. When her son Chuckie is later arrested and sent to juvenile detention for possession, she blames Carl, later ratting him out to the authorities. As a result, a dispute breaks out which ends with Mickey locking her inside a shipping container and Sammi later shooting at him, presumably leading to her arrest and the end of her story.

14 Fiona Cheats on Mike with His Brother

With her recent investments in Patsy’s Pies as well as a laundromat and an apartment complex, Fiona’s newfound entrepreneurial spirit has only recent become a central part of her storyline. Prior to becoming a property owner, she was a down on her luck South Side girl who constantly found herself in failing relationships.

In season four, Fiona’s downward spiral of relationships hit another low.

She was in desperate need of a rebound following Jimmy’s disappearance. After securing a job at Worldwide Cup, she began having a fling with her boss Mike. When Mike’s brother Robbie comes into the picture after his release from rehab, Fiona’s attraction to danger takes ahold. Putting her career in jeopardy, she has an unwise affair which culminates in her arrest at the end of the season.

13 Frank Uses Liam as Collateral

Scouring Chicago for enough money to support his many dirty habits, Frank has attracted the attentions of enough bad guys that it’s a miracle that he’s manage to run around carelessly for so long. In the season two premiere, he again backed himself into a corner when he drunkenly bet a bar patron at the Alibi Room that he couldn’t remain conscious after two taser blasts. After the customer manages to remain on two feet, Frank’s $10,000 gamble comes at the expense of the Gallagher household.

Unable to come up with the dough, the patron threatens Frank with a blowtorch, to which he responds by offering up Liam as collateral. Luckily, the Gallagher clan rallies together to get him back. Frank would later develop a bonding relationship with his youngest son, completely erasing all memory of the incident.

12 Kevin and Veronica’s Foster Child

With twins Amy and Jemma, Kevin and Veronica finally settled down to have children of their own after V became pregnant in season four. Prior to having their own kids, the couple were experimenting with parenthood in the form of a money scheme which saw them taking in a foster child in order to collect money from the government.

In season one, Kev and V welcome Ethel, a teen saved from a polygamist colony where she was married to an elderly man named Clyde.

They also took in Ethel’s son Jonah, who was born as a result of the marriage. Over the course of her stay, she struggles to grow accustomed to the modern world, but eventually settles in, until she runs away with her boyfriend Malik in season two, disappearing forever.

11 Anything Involving Sheila

Remember Sheila? The agoraphobic housewife with a proclivity for cooking was a former love interest of Frank’s, who welcomed him into her home to take advantage of her disability checks. For five seasons, she played the picture-perfect example of a housewife, though her repressed emotions would occasionally rear their ugly head.

Throughout the series, Joan Cusack would receive considerable acclaim for her turn as the wacky, subservient Sheila, earning an Emmy nomination for each season she appeared in. Although she would never receive more than a guest credit, her most memorable storylines would include dealing with her troubled daughter Karen, having an affair with Karen’s boyfriend Jody, and marrying Frank. Her storyline came to a rather abrupt end after her house exploded in season five, resulting in her driving off in an RV, never to be seen again.

10 Frank Hires a Hitman

Always the deadbeat father, Frank experienced a slight morality check when he wasn’t invited toFiona’s wedding to Sean in season six. As a way to make up for all his shortcomings, he offered to pay for all of Fiona’s wedding expenses. Everything came to a head, however, when Sean began sleeping over at the Gallagher residence, resulting in a brutal confrontation between Fiona’s fiance and the lousy patriarch of the household. After days of Frank wearing Sean’s underwear and drinking his milk, Sean’s frustration boiled over, resulting in a fight between the two.

Frank is seen on a train attempting to pay a random guy to dispose of Sean permanently.

Although nothing would come of the exchange, the attempted assassination was out of the ordinary, even for the lowly Frank.

9 Debbie Purposely Gets Pregnant

The third youngest Gallagher, Debbie began the series as the well-intention, younger sister who still held high hopes for Frank and cared for her family, though she often found it difficult to socialize in school. In due time, she transformed from the innocent girl wise beyond her years to one of the most troublesome characters on the show, using her hardened attitude to deceive her way to whatever she desired.

In season five, Debbie’s manipulative personality crossed a line when she became enamored with Derek, a boy who taught her how to box. Wanting a perfect life with her newfound boyfriend, she purposely lies to him about being on birth control in order to become pregnant and force him into a marriage. Unfortunately, her plans fall through when Derek leaves to live with his grandmother, leaving Debs a single mother.

8 Frank Tells Carl He Has Cancer

As the delinquent troublemaker whose interests include weapons, explosives, and various money-making schemes, Carl has proven to be the most like his dear deadbeat father Frank. As a faithful member of the Gallagher family, he’s the unfortunate product of a dysfunctional upbringing, but none of his regrettable actions were deserving of the scare Frank gave him in season five.

After seeing a cancer patient receive an autographed Bulls basketball on television, Frank decides to extort the Make-A-Wish Foundation by giving them a sob story.

Shaving Carl’s head, he convinces him that he has cancer and tries to get him an autographed basketball of his own, that he can later sell for a profit. Instead, Carl is offered a free summer away at a camp for cancer patients, ruining Frank’s plans and giving Carl his own mini vacation.

7 Carl Marries Kassidi

As a way of coming up with enough cash for military school in season eight, Carl sets up his own rehabilitation center in the basement of the Gallagher home, hosting neighborhood addicts for days of withdrawal. It’s here where he first encounters Kassidi, a seemingly sociopathic teen who concocts a plan to extort money from her rich father to pay Carl’s expenses.

Soon after sparking a relationship, Kassidi’s wildly chaotic personality begins threatening Carl’s career goals. As she wanders about Chicago’s South Side doing things like Snapchatting drive-by shooting victims, Carl becomes more wary of her actions, which makes it all the more confusing that he marries her at the end of the season. The season nine premiere seems to have ended her story, however, as the character’s recent disappearance suggests that she may now be deceased.

6 Mandy Hurts Karen

As the manipulative former girlfriend of Lip, Karen was the incessantly rude daughter of the agoraphobic Sheila, who would go to extreme lengths to get her way. After she stops seeing Lip due to her marriage to Jody as well as the birth of her down syndrome son Hymie, Karen decides to start things back up with her former lover, only for Lip rejects her for Mandy.

After brazenly attempting to meddle with Lip and Mandy’s relationship, Karen receives a rude awakening when she receives a text from Lip, which is later revealed to be Mandy using Lip’s phone. Showing up to a park to meet, Karen is struck by an SUV driven by Mandy, leaving her permanently brain damaged, effectively ending her story on the series.

5 Frank Has a Twin Brother

With so many siblings running around and Frank constantly inviting himself in with his various trouble-making shenanigans, it’s impossible for the Gallaghers to keep track of everyone’s comings and goings. That’s why the existence of more Gallaghers seems completely absurd, but as the early seasons have shown, there are more family members out there.

Of all the odd Gallagher members forgotten from the early seasons, none were crazier than Jerry, Frank’s twin brother.

Ian and Lip visit Jery after their grandmother Peggy claims he owes the family $5,000. Looking just like Frank, he threatens to shoot his nephews shortly after realizing they’re after money. Since his appearance, little mention has been made of Frank’s twin or of Frank’s other siblings Clayton and Wyatt.

4 Jimmy’s Return

First appearing as Fiona’s love interest in season one, Jimmy introduced himself to the Gallagher household as Steve, a hotshot businessman who comes from money. Soon afterward, his real personality begins to shine through as Fiona discovers that he makes his money through various illegal activities. In due time, he gets engaged to the daughter of a crime lord, which leads to his supposed demise in the season three finale.

Jimmy returns at the end of season four, becoming a recurring cast member for a brief time.

In an attempt to flatter Fiona, he tries to persuade her to leave her husband Gus for him. Although his return answered questions about his fate, it still left his future up in the air, leaving many to believe his story should have ended with the season three cliffhanger.

3 Frank Lies to Butterface About Her Heart Transplant

Of all the lowdown plans Frank has concocted, perhaps nothing is more despicable than the time he began hanging out with Dottie, a former good-time girl with a heart condition. Nicknamed Butterface for her less than stellar looks, Frank discovers that Dottie is in serious need of a heart transplant, rewarding him the opportunity to weasel his way into her good graces and work his way into her will before she passes away.

Although Frank’s decision proves to be flawed, he fully commits to the scheme. While Dottie is in the shower, she gets a phone call telling her a new heart has arrived which could save her life, only Frank decides to tell the hospital that Dottie has already passed away. Later, Dottie loses her life during an intimate moment with Frank, making his actions even more awful.

2 Kev has a Baby with Veronica’s Mother

As the Gallaghers’ longtime friends, Kevin and Veronica are often the supporting comic relief of the series, though they have also proven to be the strongest lasting couple. In season three, after repeatedly failing to have a baby, V enlists her bubbly mother Carol to act as a surrogate. When Carol also fails to become pregnant, Veronica to suggests her mom and Kevin actually get intimate with each other to possibly improve their results.

In due time, Carol warms up to the idea, becoming pregnant with Kevin’s child. By happenstance, Veronica soon discovers that she too is pregnant, with twins. Nine months later, the couple are the proud parents to three newborns, only Carol decides to single-handedly raise her child on her own. After a few brief appearances, Kevin and Carol’s child is forgotten and never shown again.

1 Everything Positive About Ian and Mickey’s Relationship

As a violent street thug, Mickey Milkovich is the antithesis of the gay stereotype. Ian, whose storied history with Mickey makes up a large portion of his story in the early seasons, is the more sensitive of the couple, but his rebellious nature and struggles with bipolar disorder make him an equally multi-dimensional character.

As one of the best-written gay relationships on television in recent memory, Ian and Mickey’s story was at times chaotic. 

After his imprisonment at the end of season five, Mikey escaped from prison and fled to Mexico, tearfully leaving Ian behind. Since then, the positives of their relationship have been largely dismissed and Mickey’s absence has left a void on the show which has yet to be filled.

What other storylines does Shameless want to bury? Let us know in the comments!

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2018-10-09 03:10:17 – Turner Minton