Joker Theory: Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker Creates Batman

Joaquin Phoenix’s version of the Clown Prince of Crime in Joker could be responsible for turning Bruce Wayne into Batman in his universe. While Warner Bros. is still working on growing a cinematic universe of DC characters, they are also not going to be completely beholden to making all of their movies connect. This is especially true when a potentially great standalone film comes along. It’s still early in the process, but many have faith that Joker could be just that.

After initial skepticism about a Joker origin movie passed, the trailer for the Todd Phillips directed film showed just how this could work. There’s no connections to a larger universe or superheroes, as Joker looks to be a character driven piece about a man loosing his sanity. That all said, the movie will not be completely devoid of any connections to DC comics. Thomas Wayne (Brett Cullen) is set to play a major role, and a young Bruce Wayne appeared to be shown in the footage too.

Related: Why Joaquin Phoenix Is The Creepiest Joker

In the latest Screen Rant video, we lay out our theory that Joaquin Phoenix’s version of Joker may be the one who’s responsible for Batman’s origin. The theory would see Joker take several cues from Tim Burton’s 1989 Batman and Jack Nicholson’s version of Joker, but this film could make the connection between them even deeper. Check out the video featured at the top of this post for all the details.

Since previous versions of Joker have been responsible for the deaths of Thomas and Martha Wayne, it would be surprising if Joker didn’t try to change up the mythology in some way. It has this ability thanks to being an Elseworlds-style film – standalone and not tied to any other films – and there have been theories for the last several months that a deeper connection between Joker and Batman will be made. Our theory leans into this, which would see Arthur Fleck (Joker’s real name for the movie) be the half-brother of Bruce Wayne thanks to Thomas having an affair with Mrs. Fleck.

But if this isn’t the case, then Joker could still subvert expectations with the setup that could be done for the future of this Elseworlds universe. Even though we may never actually see a sequel to Joker or another film set in the same continuity, it’s possible that Phoenix’s “Joker” will not even be the version of the villain that this universe’s version of Batman would fight. He amasses some form of a following based on all the clown masks featured in the film, so another version of Joker could be created in the future and take inspiration from Fleck. This latter option is far less likely to happen since a sequel or flash forward would be needed, but clearly Joker has several avenues to surprise fans with a new take on the Joker-Batman relationship.

MORE: Dark Theories About Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker

2019-04-16 09:04:13

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Why Joaquin Phoenix Is The Creepiest Joker

Fans are already loving Joaquin Phoenix’s version of the Clown Prince of Crime in Joker, and he may just be the creepiest iteration ever. DC’s iconic villain has had many interpretations in media over the last several decades. Through movies and TV – both live-action and animation – there’s already been some great takes on the character. But, none of them have ever received the starring role that Phoenix will.

The three time Oscar-nominee is set to star in Joker, a solo origin story set outside of Warner Bros. and DC Films’ shared universe. Todd Phillips is directing the movie and the studios just recently unveiled the first look at the movie through a teaser trailer. The tone and character study approach made it clear that Joker is not most comic book movies, with Phoenix’s performance already impressing many.

Related: Joker Trailer Breakdown – Every Reveal

After just a single trailer and not even three minutes of footage, there are some who get the feeling that Phoenix’s version of Joker could be the best one yet – but is he the creepiest too? Screen Rant tackles this topic in our latest video, which compares what we’ve seen about Phoenix’s take to Jokers of the past. With his creepy clown makeup, laugh, smile, lingering, and possible backstory, he may just be the creepiest version to date. Check out the full comparison in the video at the top of this post.

Phoenix does have some stiff competition to claim the title of the best Joker ever seen on screen, but his creepiness is what currently sets him apart. Caeser Ramero’s version from the ’60s is inherently campy, while Jack Nicholson’s from Batman is a good mix of goofy and madness. Mark Hamill’s voice performance in a variety of animated shows and movies is highly regarded, and Cameron Monaghan has impressed Gotham viewers with his own spin on the character. Jared Leto’s take from Suicide Squad divided audiences, but it is Heath Ledger’s from The Dark Knight that was an award winning turn and still considered the best to date by many.

That all said, it is still a bit premature to definitively call Phoenix’s version of Joker the creepiest one, much less the best. There has been less than three minutes of footage from his performance released so far, and his performance could play completely different during the actual movie. Thankfully, there are only a few months left before Joker hits theaters and we get to see exactly how good and creepy Phoenix’s Joker actually is.

More: Dark Theories About Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker

2019-04-12 06:04:03

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Mary Magdalene Trailer: Rooney Mara & Joaquin Phoenix Get Biblical

IFC releases a trailer for Mary Magdalene. Directed by Garth Davis, the biblical drama stars Joaquin Phoenix as Jesus Christ and Rooney Mara as the title character. Earlier this month, Mary Magdalene finally received an April release date, this coming after a turbulent distribution journey after the film initially premiered in February 2018.

In the canonical gospels, Mary Magdalene is referenced more than Jesus’ apostles, and the film chronicles her unique relationship with the founder of Christianity, as she allegedly witnessed his crucifixion, burial, and resurrection. Production began in October 2016, and the film was originally scheduled for a November 2017 release, and then pushed to March 2018. After The New York Times and The New Yorker published their Harvey Weinstein exposés in October 2017, Mary Magdalene was shelved once again, and the producers ultimately searched for a new distributor and made a deal with IFC Films.

Related: Joker Movie Director Reveals New Image of Joaquin Phoenix

On YouTube, IFC Films released Mary Magdalene’s new trailer. In the beginning, cloudy landscape shots contrast Mary’s declaration to Jesus that she wants him to understand her. From there, the trailer establishes the natural chemistry between the two historical figures, which complicates Mary’s impending marriage with “a friend.” As Mary’s acquaintances try to sway her from following Jesus, the clip underlines themes of purpose and free will. Unfortunately for Mary, she learns that Jesus’ message of peace isn’t understood by all, and she then prepares for the worst. The final minute of Mary Magdalene’s trailer focuses on the inevitable violence, along with Mary’s absolute devotion to Jesus. The clip ends with the line “The world will only change as we change.” Check out the full Mary Magdalene trailer below.

As a whole, the color palette of Mary Magdalene’s trailer is full of warm interior browns and icy blue exterior images. The film reunites the aforementioned Davis with cinematographer Greig Fraser. For their 2017 collaboration Lion, Fraser received an Academy Award nomination for Best Cinematography. In the past, he’s shot films like Killing Them Softly, Snow White and the Huntsman, Zero Dark Thirty, Foxcatcher, and Rogue One. Fraser will also serve as cinematographer for Denis Villeneuve’s 2020 science fiction epic Dune.

Mary Magdalene marks the final film for composer Jóhann Jóhannsson. The Icelandic artist earned Academy Award nominations for The Theory of Everything and Sicario. In 2016, Jóhannsson received a Golden Globe nomination for Arrival, this coming after he’d previously won for The Theory of Everything in 2014. After finishing the score for Mandy, Jóhannsson died from an accidental overdose on Feb. 9, 2018. He was 48 years old. 

Based on the new trailer, Mary Magdalene seems to be more of a cinematic experience than a fluffy historical drama. Given the talent of the aforementioned Greig Fraser and Jóhann Jóhannsson, both of whom are known for brilliantly setting a specific mood, Rooney Mara and Joaquin Phoenix can accomplish more with less. Mary Magdalene’s success will ultimately depend on the lead’s handling of major moments, and their ability to fully transform into their famous characters.

More: Everything We Know (So Far) About Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker Movie

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2019-03-28 07:03:42

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Joker Movie Director Reveals New Image of Joaquin Phoenix

Director Todd Phillips has revealed a brand new image of Joaquin Phoenix in Joker. One of the more surprising developments to come from Warner Bros. and DC Films over the last year or so was the idea that they’d start doing movies not set within a larger continuity. These have been compared to DC’s Elseworlds comics, and the studios are kicking off the concept with a highly anticipated package as the three time Oscar-nominee Joaquin Phoenix will show the origin of the Clown Prince of Crime.

The movie generated plenty of attention throughout the filming process last year as Phoenix took to the streets of New York, often in creepy clown makeup, to film the movie. It was impossible to keep paparazzi away from the set and provided interested fans with plenty of looks at Phoenix’s portrayal of Batman’s greatest foe. To try and combat some of these leaks, Phillips has also been releasing official looks at Phoenix’s terrifying camera test, him in between takes, and now what looks to be a scene from the actual film.

Related: Every Upcoming & In-Development DC Movie

The director provided a small update on the status of Joker today on his Instagram. He is currently editing the film after production wrapped last December, and now was the appropriate time in his mind to share a new look at Phoenix. He is shown here without any clown makeup on, instead attentively staring at the TV in front of him as he watches VHS tapes.

While this isn’t the most revealing photo from Joker, it is still enough to put the film back at the forefront of the minds of fans after months of no updates. One potentially interesting aspect to the photo is the interior design of the house that Arthur Fleck (Joker’s real name in the movie) is stationed in. For a down on his luck and failing comic, the decorations look a bit nicer than some may expect. This could just be some of his prized possessions, but it could also be a hint that this is not Arthur’s house at all. Maybe this is him breaking into a house of an unsuspecting victim and watching their home videos to learn more about them.

This is just speculation for the time being, but set photos have also shown him stalking Zazie Beetz’s character, and there is always Joker’s crazy side to consider. Hopefully this won’t be the last thing we see from Joker for an extended amount of time again, as a trailer will hopefully be arriving soon. There’s still seven months to go before the film hits theaters, and the smaller budget and known entity means it doesn’t need a major marketing push, but with horror movies like Pet Sematary, fellow DC movie Shazam!, and a summer full of blockbusters right around the corner, the time to see more from Joker is rapidly approaching.

More: Every Update You Need to Know About Joker

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2019-03-22 03:03:03

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Final Look at Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker in Costume as Filming Reportedly Wraps

Fans have gotten one final glimpse of Joaquin Phoenix in Joker, as filming on the project has reportedly wrapped. It was over a year ago that Warner Bros. announced Joker, with the film acting as an origin story for the iconic Batman villain. The film stars Phoenix as the Joker, a.k.a. Arthur Fleck, and is being directed by Todd Phillips, best known for his comedic work.

While superhero movies are often quite secretive during production, fans have been kept up to date on the development of Joker. Aside from Phoenix, Zazie Beetz was cast as Sophie Dumond, and Robert De Niro was cast as the character Murray Franklin. Fans have also been treated to an array of set photos from Joker, including some that revealed Joker’s costume for the movie, as well as others that depicted the Joker wreaking havoc in New York. Each adaption of the character tends to have their own unique style, and Joker seems to be no exception, with possible inspirations drawn from serial killer John Wayne Gacy and Heath Ledger’s version of the character. Now fans have yet another look at this Joker’s design, as more set photos have been released.

Related: New Joker Set Photos Send Joaquin Phoenix’s Clown Prince to a Cemetery

In images provided by Daily Mail, Phoenix can be seen in his full Joker costume and makeup as he poses for still photos as the Clown Prince of Crime. He also posed on a steep set of stairs as his character’s alter ego Arthur Fleck, as well as for a scene involving Beetz’s character. Beetz can be seen walking down the stairs with a small child, as Phoenix lurks at the top of the stairway. The set photos give fans yet another great look at both characters, and additionally Daily Mail is also reporting that production has wrapped on Joker, although this has yet to be officially confirmed by those involved with the production.


While Phoenix’s Joker movie is the next Joker film fans will see, it certainly isn’t the only movie in development that revolves around the Clown Prince of Crime. Warner Bros. Pictures has a total of six Joker-related films in development, which includes Phoenix’s origin story and several films revolving around Jared Leto’s version of the Joker. While Leto may not be done with the villain role just yet, Phoenix’s take on the Joker seems to be much more popular with comic book fans.

With the gritty approach Phillips seems to be bringing to the film, it makes sense that Joker might be rated R. Many people are speculating that Joker will help Warner Bros. reboot the DCEU, while also being a part of their non-DCEU line of films; rumored to be called DC Dark or DC Black. Others have theorized that Joker could even lead to the downfall of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Regardless of how the movie does or doesn’t effect the DCEU and the MCU, Joker will more than likely draw a lot of people into the theater.

More: Joker Origin Movie: Every Update You Need To Know

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2018-12-03 09:12:50

20 DC Characters Who Can Be In James Gunn’s Suicide Squad (And Who Should Play Them)

James Gunn may be off the Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 project after being fired by Disney for some controversial tweets surfaced from long ago, but not only has he apologized and insisted that he’s a much different person than he was at that period in his life; he’s reportedly also getting another stab at creating a comic adaptation with the next Suicide Squad film.

While Marvel fans mourn the loss of the man behind some of the best movies in the MCU, it’s quite possible that Gunn will give the DC universe the boost it desperately needs to really compete with Marvel.

While we’ll have to wait and see what the actual film brings to the party, we have plenty of time to speculate about what its plot might be, what kind of tone to expect and above all, which characters might be included and who might be cast in those roles. While many of us are hoping to see some members of the Squad from the first film return, we’re also crossing our fingers, wishing for a chance to meet more members who weren’t included in the first movie. There’s really an endless amount of speculation to enjoy here and many fans have already photoshopped their choices for the best portrayals of characters audiences have loved for decades.

Casting for these iconic personalities won’t be an easy task, but here are 20 DC Characters Who Can Be In James Gunn’s Suicide Squad (And Who Should Play Them).

20 Christina Ricci As Harley Quinn

Let’s be honest: Margot Robbie is a sure-in for Harley Quinn at this point. The star surprised many fans while proving others right with her incredible performance as the psychiatrist turned psychopath. Ensuring that Quinn not only shone as the premiere talent in a film with its problems, but that she would endure for her own film afterward, Robbie is a fan favorite, through and through.

We could definitely see this version of Harley in a Gunn movie.

If for some reason Robbie had to back out of the project, as much as it would pain fans, some have taken to casting other ideas for actresses who could play Harleen Quinzel. Artist D3SIGNMILTIA’s piece depicts an interesting version of the character that might work well with Christina Ricci.

19 Joaquin Phoenix As The Joker

We’ve seen so many incarnations of The Joker over the years that it’s getting more and more difficult to choose the perfect person to play an updated version of Batman’s most notorious foe. Whether or not he’ll be in the next Suicide Squad film is unclear. Who can measure up to Jack Nicholson’s chilling Joker and Heath Ledger’s perfect monster?

Joaquin Phoenix, currently starring in Todd Phillips’ solo Joker, is certainly one candidate. Phoenix, who’s also utilized some unorthodox acting methods in the past, might give us a bit more grave swagger as the criminal mastermind. His ongoing presence in the DCEU will likely depend on the success of Joker, due out in October 2019.

18 Neil Patrick Harris As The Riddler

Everyone’s favorite child doctor has grown up to become a much beloved singer, showman, and nemesis of the Baudelaire children. Neil Patrick Harris shines in just about everything he’s in, so including him in the next installment of Suicide Squad makes perfect sense.

Harris as the Riddler is pure gold.

He’s got the chops to bring the perfect blend of humor and intelligence that the Riddler needs to truly succeed, which might hopefully replace the slapstick Riddler we got in Batman Forever years ago. Harris isn’t everyone’s favorite for the Riddler, though; stay tuned for more artist manipulations involving the Riddler later.

17 Manu Bennett As Deathstroke

Given the fact that the Arrowverse and TV adaptations of DC stories have proven so successful, it makes sense to borrow from that character pool to not only connect the universe but to help ensure the success of Suicide Squad 2. If Gunn and company are planning on including Deathstroke in the sequel, we think Manu Bennet would be a clear choice for the character.

While some fans speculate that Joe Manganiello will play the part, since he is Mr. Wilson in Justice League and has announced that he’s working on three more films featuring the character, his involvement in Suicide Squad 2 remains speculation at this point. Many believe that Deathstroke will indeed be a primary villain in the film, and Bennet has already proven that he would do the character justice.

16 Sophie Turner As Oracle

Lots of fans are imagining Marvel actors in DC roles, which is pretty delightful for those of us who Make Ours Marvel and DC. Sophie Turner, who gave us the Jean Grey that we were waiting for in X-Men: Apocalypse and is set to reprise the role in Dark Phoenix, would also make an excellent Oracle.

Barbara Gordon’s time as Oracle has included a gig as tech support for the Suicide Squad.

With Ruby Rose’s debut as Batwoman and a Batgirl movie announced, the inclusion of Oracle could provide some timeline intrigue. Plus, after decades of Batman saturation, this much Bat-women power would be so much fun.

15 Oprah Winfrey As Amanda Waller

Viola Davis was a pretty stellar Amanda Waller, which comes as no surprise to anyone who has ever seen Viola Davis in anything. Davis could read a grocery list and deserve an Oscar. That said, Kode Logic has imagined what Oprah might bring to the role and we have to say that it looks impressive. Firm, ruthless and beautiful, Oprah’s Waller seems to give the character a bit more experience points, which are conveyed in that hard gaze.

Davis has said that she loved playing Amanda Waller, who is aligned so well with her character Annalise Keating in the hit TV drama How to Get Away with Murder in many ways, but how much fun would it be to see Oprah bend the rules?

14 Will Smith As Deadshot

You don’t mess with what works, and Will Smith certainly worked as Deadshot in the original Suicide Squad. He did so well, in fact, that plenty of people thought that he deserved his own film and said that they’d have watched Suicide Squad again if it only starred Smith. This really isn’t a surprise, given Smith’s star power, and it’s been announced that he’s returning to the franchise in the role again.

It’s a good thing that we have some time before the movie’s released, too, since Smith is set to star in Bad Boys for Life and Bright 2 around the same time. Smith’s got three films releasing in 2019 alone, and while one is only a vocal role, he’s definitely going to be busy for the next couple of years.

13 Jeffrey Dean Morgan As Batman

Utter the words “Jeffrey Dean Morgan” in the same sentence as “The Batman” and you’re bound to get a room full of excited fans. He’s absolutely perfect for Wayne in an adaptation of something like Batman Beyond, but we could definitely see him as the Batman in just about any adaptation of the series, and DeviantArt user evelius has given us some visual art to really picture the idea.

Morgan has the darkness and the voice necessary for Batman to match this ragtag team of violent convicts.

While Bale and Affleck had their time in the cowl, it’s time for a new man behind the mask. Why not Negan?

12 Rila Fukushima As Katana

While Katana was featured in the first Suicide Squad film, most people believe her role was too small to really critique or appreciate. Japanese-American actress Karen Fukuhara wasn’t bad in the role; she just didn’t get much to do.

Adding Rila Fukushima in the second movie might lend Katana some traction given that she already portrays the character in the Arrowverse.

While Fukuhara, who is set to play Glimmer in the new She-Ra and the Princesses of Power TV series, is rumored to be reprising the role, Fukushima, star of last year’s Ghost in the Shell, was also fantastic as Yukio in The Wolverine, which would give us another fun link between the DC and Marvel universes.

11 Emma Stone As Poison Ivy

Who doesn’t love quirky, smart, and funny Emma Stone? The actress would be perfect for an updated role as Poison Ivy following Uma Thurman’s beautiful but wonky portrayal of Pamela Isley. One of BossLogic’s many creative manipulations, this artwork features Stone as the iconic plant-loving villain and it’s pretty impressive.

We already know that Ivy will be a big part of the upcoming Gotham City Sirens film, which will also feature Harley Quinn and Catwoman at its heart, so why not include her in the Suicide Squad movie as well? There are several other cool artist manipulations of actresses who might be great in the role, such as Jessica Chastain, so it’s going to be a tough one to cast.

10 Kristen Wiig As Cheetah

Many of us can’t stop celebrating Kristen Wiig being cast as Cheetah in Wonder Woman 1984. The strongest thing the DC movies have going for it right now is all the incredible female characters, most notably Harley Quinn and Wonder Woman, and we can’t wait to see where Aquaman takes us. If all goes well it would make perfect sense to include Wiig in Suicide Squad 2, especially since weaving in characters from multiple films would help provide better continuity for the DCEU.

Wiig is funny, smart, and beautiful, and we think she’s going to make an excellent foe for Wonder Woman.

In that case, her inclusion in another movie would also be fantastic to see.

9 Nathalie Emmanuelle As Vixen

DeviantArt artist farrou has created some truly amazing fanart of DC characters, and one of them, which features Nathalie Emmanuelle as Vixen, makes us believers. While we’re not sure if Emmanuelle has a Tantu Totem, we’re pretty sure she could make it work if Gunn and co. gave her one. The actress, best known for her role as Missandei on HBO’s Game of Thrones, is definitely ready for a a super suit and action in a big movie like this.

Then again, Jada Pinkett Smith has expressed interest in the role of Vixen, which would not only be interesting due to her husband’s presence in the movie but also due to her previous DC role as Fish Mooney in the TV series Gotham. Both actresses would be well-cast for the movie.

8 Jake Gyllenhaal As The Riddler

Do we really need the Riddler to come out and play in Suicide Squad 2? After the weirdness of Batman Forever and the sinister developments of Gotham, perhaps it’s time to reinvent the villain. Jake Gyllenhaal makes sense to play the villain not only because he was David Goyer’s original choice to play Batman in the Christopher Nolan movies, but because this fanart made by Vaskoho is something to behold.

While there are several people who could pull off the role, we think Donnie Darko has a fighting chance.

Fans point out that there were some Riddler Easter eggs in the Batman v Superman movie, so it’s possible that we’ll see The Riddler on film someday.

7 Dave Bautista As Bane

Can we all agree that, no matter the context, Dave Bautista must appear in Suicide Squad 2? Not only has the Drax actor delighted us all with his hilarious yet poignant portrayal in the Guardians of the Galaxy series, but he’s also publicly stated that he supports Gunn and wants to be involved in his next project.

We’re pretty sure any role could be molded to make room for such a beloved actor, but as as BossLogic has pointed out, he’d make an excellent Bane. After having two Banes that didn’t work so well in the Batman universe, we could definitely use a fresh face for the role. If he’s not Bane, Bautista would make a fantastic Solomon Grundy, too. We’re not too picky on this one.

6 Michael K. Williams As Black Manta

Could Black Manta make an appearance in Suicide Squad 2? It’s too early to rule anything out and many fans think he’d make a good inclusion, particularly following the Aquaman movie. While the majority of his screen time might simply have his head shrouded in a big bubble, his casting would be nonetheless important. Artist diamondking13 suggests actor Michael K. Williams for the job and we love the idea.

It would be cool to see how Gunn and co, would update the suit for a more modern, movie-friendly look.

Famous for his critically acclaimed roles in The Wire and Boardwalk Empire, Williams was just cast in Jordan Peele and Misha Green’s Lovecraft Country, but Suicide Squad 2 is far enough in the future to give him time for both gigs.

5 Bill Skarsgård As The Joker

This one is a no-brainer. Many of us just don’t care to see Jared Leto return as The Joker and it’s quite possible that The Joker won’t even see a second of footage in the second film. While we’d all probably be okay with that, if a new Joker is cast, Bill Skarsgård is a fantastic choice.

Skarsgård is hot right now following his success as Pennywise in the new adaptation of Stephen King’s It. He also played a less troubling character in Castle Rock over the summer, proving his mettle yet again in King’s world. Considered one of the good things to come out of Netfix’s Hemlock Grove, Skarsgård could probably do the Joker justice, as artist aikoaiham has shown.

4 Teresa Palmer As Killer Frost

After witnessing Killer Frost in the Arrowverse, many fans are calling for her inclusion in Suicide Squad 2. DeviantArt creator farrou has imagined what it might look like if Teresa Palmer played the villain and it’s a pretty spot-on representation.

The Australian actress is no stranger to action movies and could do well in the role.

Kristin Bauer van Straten has already voiced Killer Frost in the animated Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, while Danica McKellar voices her in Lego DC Superhero Girls. She’s also been in 2009’s Public Enemies animated feature between Batman and Superman, but she’s never been in a live action movie before. Danielle Panabaker portrays the character in The Flash, but she hasn’t made a film in a few years.

3 Jon Bernthal as Rick Flag

Jon Bernthal is another actor already present in the MCU, portraying the most accurate and adept version of the Punisher we could ever hope for, so tossing the talented actor into the DC mix would just be plain fun. It’s not that Joel Kinneman was terrible as Rick Flag, and he’s done a great job standing up for the original film and its purpose, but Jon Bernthal would just be better.

The skill Bernthal has in striking that tricky sweet spot between ruthlessness and gravitas while still being a compelling, empathetic human being isn’t something anyone can do. Artist Riku7kun shows us what Bernthal as Flag might look like. It’s a little bare in comparison to Kinneman’s look, but that might actually work with Bernthal.

2 Josh Gad As The Penguin

It’s no secret that Josh Gad wants the role of The Penguin, having pushed for it himself in social media, and fans are clamoring for the opportunity to see the voice of the snowman, Olaf, and Gaston’s buddy LaFou in a much more sinister role.

Whether or not Gad will show up in The Batman remains to be seen but he definitely has the flippers to play the beloved villain.

BossLogic has given us some art imagining what he might look like in the role and it can only get better from here. In March, Gad started hilariously trolling Matt Reeves on Twitter, sending him animated penguin GIFs and hinting at what he could bring to the Batman franchise.

1 Margot Robbie As Harley Quinn

It’s an obvious inclusion, but it’s necessary. While the original Suicide Squad, hyped up to be the most incredible DC movie of all time, had plenty of problems, most fans and critics agree that the shining star of the whole production was Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. Robbie’s portrayal was everything we hoped for– brutal, nuanced, and a delicate balance between her joker obsession and Harley coming into her own person without being too over-the-top.

Who isn’t excited to see Robbie return as Harley in theBirds Of Prey adaptation featuring the awesome women of DC, which is so ardently anticipated that it pushed Suicide 2 to the back burner? After this much love, Robbie has to be in this universe.

Who do you most want to see in a new Suicide Squad movie? Let us know in the comments!

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2018-10-11 02:10:45 – Sara Schmidt

DC’s Titans Has The Perfect Response To Deadpool 2’s ‘So Dark’ Dig

Deadpool 2 claimed DC properties are “so dark,” and now it’s DC Universe’s Titans series that is responding. One of the criticisms that the DCEU has received in recent years is the dark nature of their movies. The grounded take was built by Zack Snyder off the success of Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy, but audiences didn’t respond in the same way. Many believe they’ve lost sight of who these characters are, and a darker approach is sticking with DC as they launch a digital service full of original content. They aren’t even shying away from it, as the first trailer for Titans showed Robin brutally beating criminals and saying, “F*** Batman.”

Even though this is the style DC has operated with recently, other superhero movies have gone in the opposite direction. This is especially true with Ryan Reynolds’ Deadpool franchise, which has repeatedly made DC the butt of his jokes. This continued in Deadpool 2 when, following a jab at dubstep from Cable (Josh Brolin), the Merc with a Mouth says, “You’re so dark. Are you sure you’re not from the DC Universe?”

Related: Jason Todd’s Robin Confirms Titan’s Place in DC Timeline

Well, DC Universe is finally responding to Deadpool’s comments by using them in the latest promo for Titans. The video starts by quoting D. Pool’s remark, referring to him as an American philosopher (even though he’s Canadian). It then shows a montage of the violence that Robin (Brenton Thwaites) will be dishing out to criminals and cops alike, before saying “Suck it, Mr. Pool.” They do sign the statement “with love” but then immediately show Dick Grayson smashing a guy in the face as blood splatters on a nearby window.

This is a pretty great response on the part of Titans, as they’re embracing Deadpool’s concern instead of turning away from it. This also makes Titans the latest DC entity to mock Deadpool. The recently released trailer for the animated Harley Quinn series commented on Marvel’s canceled Deadpool animated series from Donald Glover. Warner Bros. even responded to Deadpool 2‘s post-credits scene where Deadpool travels through time to assassinate Ryan Reynolds before he could star in Green Lantern, but it was Reynolds who got the last laugh.

Even though DC has received criticism for the approach, it is one they are changing. Wonder Woman was the first true sign of this, and the reception only further encouraged Warner Bros. to meddle with Justice League‘s tone, just as they did with Suicide SquadAquaman looks to be a giant, fun adventure film based on the new extended trailer. There’s also Shazam! coming out next year, which made it abundantly clear in its first trailer what tone it’s going for. DC will still have some darker properties like Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker and maybe Birds of Prey, but the future appears to be more balanced, tonally, even if Titans will stay in a darker one to start.

More: Every Trailer Released at New York Comic Con 2018

Titans season 1 premieres Friday, October 12, on DC Universe.

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2018-10-08 02:10:09 – Cooper Hood

Joker Director Reveals New Photo Of Joaquin Phoenix In A Clown Costume

Joaquin Phoenix puts on the complete clown outfit in a new Joker photo. Excitement is brewing in Gotham as Batman’s archenemy gets a movie of his own. Oscar-nominee Phoenix is set to star as Arthur Fleck, the man who will eventually become DC’s Clown Prince of Crime. The solo movie is going to be an origin story for the supervillain, and, despite the grounded approach it’s taking, they aren’t completely veering away from the comic book elements or Joker’s traditional look.

The first image of Phoenix in clown makeup was just the first of many looks that have come out of Joker‘s production. Much to the dismay of director Todd Phillips, set photos and videos are leaking daily, so he’s combating those leaks with some official looks of his own. The latest continues to put Phoenix in the clown makeup.

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Phillips posted the latest Joker image on his Instagram that puts another spin on Phoenix’s clown getup. The menacing look he’s had more recently has been left behind, as he now is in a traditional clown outfit. Since this Joker has already shown a willingness to change his look, he looks to be continuing that process in the latest photo.

This latest look for Phoenix’s Joker retains his makeup, but everything appears to be a bit scaled back. While he may have terrorized a subway full of people before, he instead just looks like a typical clown that would be at carnivals, birthday parties, or other events. Since there’s no scene context to the outfit and makeup, it is impossible to say how exactly this ties into Joker. But, it would be a fascinating turn if Fleck – who is going to be a failed comedian – turns to being a clown as his job, but then uses his occupational tools to run wild across Gotham.

This is just the latest image from Joker that will intrigue fans and likely won’t be the last. As videos and photos from the set continue to make their way online and reveal new details in the process, it appears Phillips is willing to provide even more new looks himself. They’ve mainly been focused on the leading character, but hopefully looks will start to surface for a supporting cast that includes Marc Maron, Robert De Niro, and more. But, this is Joker’s movie at the end of the day and the internet has been buzzing with every new look at Joker, so more cryptic looks at Phoenix in costume may for the best.

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2018-09-24 05:09:02 – Cooper Hood

The Possible Inspirations For Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker Makeup

The first image of Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker is a gritty and menacing interpretation of the iconic villain, but where was the inspiration for his clown makeup derived from? The evolution of The Joker on the big screen has resulted in some wildly varied character designs and, with the villain a firm favorite of many DC fans, this has sometimes led to frustration within the Batman faithful.

Back in the mid-2000s, many Joker fans recoiled in horror at the news that romantic-comedy regular Heath Ledger would be portraying the Caped Crusader’s arch nemesis. Any such doubts were swiftly put to bed when images of Ledger in costume began to surface and the actor went on to deliver a universally praised performance. While Ledger’s Joker would always be an impossible act to follow, the reveal of Jared Leto’s highly stylized version of the villain was met largely with derision and his fleeting appearance in Suicide Squad did little to alter those opinions.

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Clearly, first impressions are very important when it comes to The Joker and after images of him sans clown makeup were revealed last week, it’s now Joaquin Phoenix’s turn to face fans’ judgement. Directed by Todd Phillips, the Joker movie will be entirely separate to the DC Extended Universe, taking place in an alternate Gotham pre-Batman.

With unsettling smeared clown paint and green-tinged locks, Phoenix’s Joker attracted a positive reception from fans on social media and took the character as far away from Leto’s tattooed gangster as possible. Love or hate Phoenix’s look, it’s difficult to deny that the image leaves a lasting and menacing impression and, given the possible inspiration behind the clown makeup look, that perhaps shouldn’t come as a surprise.

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John Wayne Gacy

John Wayne Gacy was a notorious serial killer in Illinois during the 1970s who was ultimately convicted and executed for the murders of 33 young men and teenagers. Disturbingly, Gacy was known to work as a clown at children’s parties, hospitals and charity events, going by the names “Pogo” or “Patches.” Naturally, the media would dub him “The Killer Clown” after his arrest. Gacy designed and applied his own clown makeup and although many in the clown profession would, understandably, attempt to distance their business from the serial killer in the years to follow, several of them pointed out the while clowns tend to use rounded shapes in their makeup to avoid looking scary, Gacy opted for sharp demonic points, emphasizing the amateurish and sinister nature of his clown appearance.

While no one from Warner Bros. has come out and admitted that a serial killer provided the inspiration for their latest Joker design (and, frankly, none are likely to), the similarities are too abundant to ignore. The wide red mouth with pointed edges. The high, azure blue eye paint with a hint of black. While certainly not an outright imitation, it seems likely that Gacy’s Pogo the Clown provided some level of inspiration to the appearance of Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker.

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This rather clearly sets out the Joker movie’s intentions. Phoenix has previously stated that his interest in playing the villain was in making a dark, low-budget character study and if this is indeed the direction the Joker movie is headed, basing the villain’s makeup on a real-life serial killer is an effective way of highlighting that this Joker will be presented like the murderous criminal he is, rather than the kooky troublemaker other interpretations have opted for.

The Tramp/Hobo Clown

Those unfamiliar with the intricacies of the clown profession may not be aware that there are, in fact, several different types of clown performance. Although, somewhat characteristically, The Joker doesn’t fit neatly into any of them, the villain does share much in common with the Tramp and Hobo types. Indeed, according to the ISCA (International Shrine Clown Association), a Tramp clown is recognized by his shaggy, unkempt appearance with red around the mouth to give an unshaven and burnt impression. Often seen with painted-on tears, Tramp clowns tend to wear ragged three-piece suits and the performer would usually use their own hair, ruffled up, instead of a wig. Tramp clowns have a sorrowful attitude and a resentment towards the world, while their Hobo counterparts look distinctly cheerier, characterized by a painted smile and more open eye shapes.

Generally speaking, the character of The Joker throughout his history has incorporated elements of both the Tramp and Hobo clowns, and Joaquin Phoenix’s makeup also shares several consistencies with the descriptions provided. The blue teardrop and wide, red smile mix together elements of the Tramp and Hobo types of clown, while his suit and messy hair embolden the image of someone down on their luck and angry at the world around them.

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Bearing in mind Joker will be an origin story, it perhaps makes sense that Phoenix’s look would be similar to that of the Tramp. The Joker is typically known to be a purveyor of disorder and chaos; a rebel against social structures and norms and although he hints that some tragic event earlier in life made him that way, re-tellings and inconsistencies mean that fans can never be sure of the truth. In Joker, there’s a strong possibility that viewers will see the villain’s first sense of being dealt an unfair hand by the world and, just like the Tramp clown, the Joker is going to be angry at those he feels have wronged him.

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The Possible Links To Previous Batman Movies

The first image of Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker has more than a hint of Heath Ledger about it, from the unkempt hair and roughly applied makeup to the low lighting and homemade aesthetic. However, that isn’t the only connection to Christopher Nolan’s seminal The Dark Knight. In the 2008 movie’s opening sequence, Ledger’s Joker executes an armed bank robbery using hired goons in various clown masks and Phoenix’s makeup shares many similarities with the mask worn by Ledger himself in this scene.

Although the colors of the mouth and eyes are inverted, both designs utilize the same red, white and blue palette, and sharing a large, red comedy nose. Ledger’s mask also employs a high arched eyebrow which is another prominent feature of Phoenix’s look. Interestingly, the mask from The Dark Knight was itself inspired by the 1960s Batman television series, in which Cesar Romero’s Joker once donned a clown mask of his own as part of a cunning disguise. A neat nod to wider Bat-history.

Related: The Best Dark Knight Joker Origin Theory (And How It Improves The Movie)

The level of influence from The Dark Knight on Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker is not subtle and the images released so far seem to send a clear message that the franchise is heading back to Nolan’s approach of realism and suburban grit; a sentiment that wasn’t lost on former DC Entertainment president, Diane Nelson. Although some might question the wisdom in sticking too close to Ledger’s unbeatable performance in terms of tone and appearance, there’s no doubt that Leto’s Joker has failed to attract the same level of excitement and buzz as his predecessor and a return to territory that has been historically successful for The Joker in the modern era seems logical.

The Laughing Fish

Typically, The Joker of the DC comics isn’t seen with the bright blue eye makeup that is so striking in Joaquin Phoenix’s version of the character. However, there is a history of such a look in Batman lore, perhaps most notably in the Detective Comics 475/476 story “The Laughing Fish!” and “Sign of The Joker” which is frequently hailed as one of the best ever Joker tales and was partially adapted for Batman: The Animated Series.

The story sees The Joker embark on a ruthless killing spree while evading both Batman and Gotham police, as he attempts to copyright fish he has mutated to look like himself. DC 475‘s famous cover Joker resembles Joaquin Phoenix’s look perhaps more than any other design in the comics, with his longer hair, blue shaded eyes and high arching brows. Naturally, this might indicate that The Laughing Fish/Sign of The Joker will provide some level of story inspiration for Joaquin Phoenix’s movie. The fact that the Joker movie will reportedly include a Rupert Thorne-style character (a key figure in that comic) only strengthens this theory.

Theory: Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker Is A Trump Version Of Batman

While it might be a stretch too far to expect lipstick-wearing carp or an appearance from Batman (although Thomas Wayne does have a role to play), the concept of The Joker attempting to get a business deal off the ground and murdering anyone who gets in his way is something that could work exceptionally well as an origin story for the character; an initially genuine entrepreneur, desperate to provide for his family, turned criminal by a constant series of harsh rejections and a seemingly unfair system.

Clearly, there’s much more to come from Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker and there’s also no guarantee that his look won’t evolve throughout the course of the movie. However, if first impressions are as important as recent Joker history suggests, Phoenix’s incarnation of the character has made a very strong start and the sources of inspiration peeking through his makeup only make Joker even more of a tantalizing proposition.

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2018-09-24 01:09:34 – Craig Elvy

Joaquin Phoenix Wreaks Havoc in Full Joker Costume on NYC Set

The onslaught of set photos and videos from Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker origin movie continues, this time featuring the Clown Prince of Crime in NYC. Considering how divisive many of the entries in the DCEU film franchise have been, fans were naturally quite skeptical when Warner Bros. and DC first revealed that they were planning to make a Joker origin film unconnected to Jared Leto’s existing DCEU portrayal. After all, Leto’s Joker didn’t exactly earn raves from most fans, so why would an additional attempt at capturing the iconic villain onscreen necessarily be any better, or succeed in doing anything but confusing moviegoers?

Hiring Todd Phillips – a man best known for directing The Hangover trilogy of wacky comedies – to helm this new take on Joker’s origin did little to quell fan’s fears, but the perception surrounding the film’s potential quality changed almost instantly when Oscar-nominee Joaquin Phoenix signed on to play the title role. Phoenix is well-known for marching to the beat of his own drummer, and is normally very careful about what parts he accepts and what offers he passes on.

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After accepting the lead in Joker, Phoenix made it clear that he had been previously hesitant to star in a comic book movie, but that the character-driven nature of the project drew him in. This week, the internet has exploded with looks at Phillips’ Joker film, in the form of both officially released photos and videos, and unofficially released set peeks. With Joker now in production at various New York City locations, a bevy of set photos have surfaced online, many of which were catalogued by Twitter user JNapierrr. Check them out below, featuring Phoenix menacing innocents at a subway station.

With his performance in Joker, Phoenix will become the sixth actor to portray Batman’s arch-nemesis in a live-action movie or TV show. Cesar Romero began the tradition with his memorable turn in 1966’s Batman movie and follow-up TV series starring Adam West, although his Joker was obviously more silly than most, due to the tone of those projects. Jack Nicholson played The Joker opposite Michael Keaton in director Tim Burton’s 1989 Batman film, while Heath Ledger won an Oscar for his work as Gotham’s most sadistic villain in Christopher Nolan’s 2008 hit The Dark Knight. More recently, actor Cameron Monaghan has been bringing to life the dual roles of Jerome and Jeremiah Valeska on FOX’s Gotham, characters that are Jokers in all but name.

Those actors leave Phoenix various standards to live up to, but knowing the often enigmatic actor, he intends to craft a version of The Joker that’s uniquely tailored to Phillips’ film, and one that will be truly unlike any prior onscreen rendition of DC’s most celebrated psychopath. As the New York City shoot continues, fans should expect to get even more looks at Phoenix’s Joker, and what he has in store for those unlucky enough to cross him.

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2018-09-22 05:09:06 – Michael Kennedy