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Where Do The Naruto Movies Fall In The Series Timeline?

Figuring out where the Naruto movies fall within the series timeline can be tricky without a little homework, so here’s the correct order. Naruto is based on the popular manga series by Masashi Kishimoto and follows the title character as he trains to become a ninja. The anime adaptation followed the manga’s structure by splitting the saga in two; part one focused on Naruto’s pre-teen years while part two jumps ahead in time to the character’s teenage adventures.

The first series of Naruto arrived in 2002 in Japan and would run for 220 episodes, while sequel series Naruto: Shippuden would first air in 2007 and would last an epic 500 episodes before ending. The show ranks alongside the likes of Dragon Ball and Bleach in popularity and it spawned a series of eleven Naruto movies that were produced alongside the show.

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The franchise continued on with the adventures of Naruto’s son Boruto and a live-action Naruto movie is being developed by The Greatest Showman director Michael Gracey. While fans wait for Naruto to be adapted into a potential blockbuster series, they might want to revisit the animated movie spinoffs. While watching the movies isn’t strictly necessary to enjoy the show, some fans might be curious where they fall within the timeline.

The first three Naruto movies follow the timeline of the original series, while the last eight take place within the continuity of Naruto: Shippuden. The first movie, 2004s’s Ninja Clash In The Land Of Snow, fits between episodes 101 and 102 of the original show, while Legend Of The Stone Of Gelel comes after 160. The final entry was the lukewarm Guardians Of The Crescent Moon Kingdom, which is set after episode 196.

The timeline with later movies is a little fuzzy, however, so a little guesswork is involved. Naruto Shippuden The Movie from 2007 comes after episode 32 of the sequel series, while 2008’s Bonds is roughly after episode 70. Naruto Shippuden The Movie: The Will Of Fire is after episode 121 and The Lost Tower follows episode 143. The order of Blood Prison is a topic of debate among fans, mainly due to events in the story being confusing, but it likely falls somewhere after episode 220.

Road To Ninja: Naruto The Movie is also unclear in terms of chronology, but it appears to come after episode 250 and the fittingly titled The Last finds Naruto and his friends trying to stop the moon hitting the Earth and comes before episode 495. Buruto: Naruto The Movie from 2015 then follows Naruto’s son on new adventures. The order of the Naruto movies, especially the later entries, is up for debate among franchise fans, but most of them are best enjoyed when detached from strict continuity.

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2019-04-17 04:04:13

Padraig Cotter

DCEU Complete Movie Timeline (From Man of Steel To Shazam)

The Justice League heroes may be the stars of the DCEU, but the history that brought them together stretches back thousands of years. Across the planet Krypton, through ancient Greek mythology, and to a time when Atlantis was the most advanced society above water, the timeline of the DC movies may seem too ancient to identify using specific years. But Man of Steel, Wonder Woman, and Justice League have all given enough evidence to create one massive chain of events. And with Aquaman and Shazam! adding the final pieces of the puzzle, a solid DCEU timeline is taking shape.

Fans may be suspicious of a concrete DCEU timeline, since many of the films never actually make their exact year known, let alone relevant to the story. But as the movies multiply, the approximate dates have been narrowed down. Even if it feels like any ancient empire or dynasty in the DCEU is measured in “thousands of years” to be intentionally vague, Wonder Woman and Aquaman have locked in a more complete picture. And surprise: some of that history is nowhere near as ancient as fans might assume.

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For now, the DC movie universe is easy enough to lay out from beginning to end, at least where the films’ “modern” periods are set. So to start with dates everyone can agree on before diving into the past, the modern Era of the DCEU and its biggest events are confirmed to take place in the canon timeline as such:

  • 1918: Wonder Woman
  • 1984: Wonder Woman 1984
  • 2013: Man of Steel
  • 2015: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
  • 2016: Suicide Squad
  • 2016: Justice League
  • 2016-2017: Aquaman
  • 2019: Shazam!

That’s the DCEU timeline so far, but every new movie is guaranteed to bring new events and parallel storylines to light. And if the newly released Shazam! is any indication, the mythology of DC’s biggest heroes is going to be expanded in not only the present day, or the future, but in the ancient history, with new figures and formative events being introduced only when their stories are necessary. Based purely on the films already released, and ones reportedly in development, the history of the New Gods, Apokolips, New Genesis, Atlantis, Themyscira, and perhaps even Krypton are still subject to change.

What makes it so difficult to accept one timeline as canon is that films like Man of Steel, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman have all relied on the “accepted story” being revealed as not the whole truth. That being said, putting together a concrete timeline based on what Aquaman adds to the history of King Atlan, the Atlantean Empire and the sinking of the city is no easy task. Which is why we’re breaking it down into one DCEU timeline for fans who need to know.

  • This Page: The Movie Events in The DCEU Timeline
  • Page 2: The Ancient History of the DCEU
  • Page 3: The Modern DCEU Takes Shape
  • Page 4: The Age of The Justice League Begins

Page 2 of 4: The Beginning of The DCEU Timeline

DC’s movie universe has taken shape thanks to a variety of different heroes, writers, and directors, but one thing remains the same in every single one of them. Not a structure, style, or even tone, but an overwhelming sense that the film’s hero is almost instantly out of their depths. Their journey to greatness may only be beginning, but the conflicts and enemies they encounter have been in motion for thousands of years, long before the current DC heroes were even born. And while that approach has given the impression of a massive, epic, and nuanced timeline stretching back into ancient history… it also means fans may have a hard time remembering whose ancient people went to war with whom, first.

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Thankfully, the first wave of the DCEU still fits together fairly well – whether or not Zack Snyder, Patty Jenkins, David Ayer, or anyone else at Warner Bros. was actually connecting the dots along the way. So with Superman explaining the timeline of ancient Krypton, and Wonder Woman handling the gods, mankind, and the Amazons, it falls to Aquaman to fit in the last piece of the puzzle. And fit in it does, with the ancient legends of King Atlan, his trident, and Atlantis above water helping complete the picture.

From Steppenwolf to Suicide Squad, here is the best approximation we have of the timeline of the ancient DCEU:

  • 200,000 BC – Zeus Creates Mankind on Earth: As explained to Diana by her mother in Wonder Woman, the creation of human beings was the first task of Zeus, who created them in the image of the Olympian Gods. Before long his son Ares corrupted mankind with hatred and violence, leading Zeus to make his second creation: the beautiful and noble Amazons, blessed with enough of Zeus’ own divinity to protect and guide mankind to their better destiny. And to defend Earth alongside them, should the need arise.
  • 28,000 BC – The Earth Unites Against Apokolips: While the year in which Zeus created mankind is largely a placeholder (tied to the scientific estimates of when “humans” emerged), the year in which Apokolips first attempted to invade Earth comes from the DCEU specifically. More than once during production and in accompanying marketing materials, the ancient prologue seen in Justice League is said to have occurred “thirty thousand years ago.” That number might be rounded for convenience, but it’s as exact as we’re going to get. Presumably, the Amazons allied with mankind despite their past betrayals, and the Atlanteans existed because… well, unless Poseidon copied his brother’s creation, let’s just brush that question aside for now.
  • 18,000 BC – Supergirl Comes to Earth: This news will be a shock for fans hoping to see Kara Zor-El in a Supergirl movie, but a prequel comic already confirmed that the DCEU’s version of Supergirl lived thousands of years earlier. She was chosen to lead a Kryptonian Scout Ship during her planet’s age of expansion, but through a sinister betrayal, ended up crashing into Earth. That ship would be frozen in ice and eventually discovered by Kal-El as his Fortress of Solitude giving an exact date for its arrival.
  • 15,000 BC – The Fall of Krypton Begins: The planet Krypton may only have exploded a lifetime ago for the modern DCEU, but its decline began in antiquity. Jor-El’s artificial intelligence gives Kal the account, marking this period as the time when Krypton began to engineer children, abandoned expansion, and lost the ‘soul’ of their civilization. But on Earth, things were going swimmingly.
  • 10,000 BC – The Deserters Leave Atlantis: The Aquaman movie takes over the timeline at this point, with Vulko’s history lesson claiming that a tribe of Atlantis referred to as “Deserters” decided to leave the rest of their people, and head to an inland sea. When their lands dried up into what would become The Sahara Desert, they perished. Science tells us that Earth’s orbital ‘wobble’ led to the Sahara becoming lush with water for a few thousand years, beginning in 10,000 BC.
  • 5,000 BC – The Trident of Atlan is Forged: This date is approximate, since it’s near the end of the window in which the Deserter Tribe would still have been alive to forge King Atlan’s Trident (a final artifact to immortalize their talents).
  • 4,300 BC – The Enchantress is Born: The file on Enchantress shown in Suicide Squad provides her age, confirming she was ‘born’ as a god figure in South America around this point in history. Which parallels with the emergence of the Norte Chico, among others, as one of the first spontaneous creations of civilization around the world.
  • 3,000 BC – The Alliance of Man, Atlantean & Amazon Ends: The fact that the storylines involving the Olympian Gods and sinking of Atlantis have yet to appear is going to be a main topic next, but for now, this Golden Age of the DCEU comes to a close. Justice League informs viewers that the great Warning Fire of The Amazons – lit by the Amazons after Steppenwolf’s attack – has not burned for “five thousand years.” While some have taken that as a milestone for the War of The Gods, evidence conflicts it. All we know for sure is that from 3,000 BC forward, the alliances between humans, Amazons, and Atlanteans was over.
  • ???? BC – The Wizard Shazam Ends The Age of Magic: The exact year is never given, but presumably thousands of years prior to the present day, the fallen champion of The Council of Wizards (otherwise known as Black Adam) rebelled and destroyed them. The Wizard Shazam withdrew all magic to The Rock of Eternity, along with the Seven Sins.

Page 3 of 4: The Modern DCEU Takes Shape

As we alluded to before, here is where the timeline of the DCEU gets seriously interesting. Because as much as Justice League‘s ancient prologue established the story of Mankind, Atlanteans, and Amazons as one of ancient history – and Wonder Woman’s own tale of the Olympian Gods did the same – both films have begun to walk back their ancient time scale. With Aquaman, it’s explicitly stated that the worlds of Atlantis and the Amazons may have fallen long before the modern world began to form… but could still have been around less than two thousand years ago. Humans have even shorter memories than some would believe, it seems.

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The 20th Century events that planted seeds for the coming Justice League universe are easy enough to track, and won’t cause too much confusion (although seeing how closely key events in the Leaguers’ lives overlap will be a bit of a thrill). It’s the first centuries and the first two millennia of the Common Era that will prove a bit controversial.

Some of our dates may seem to contradict existing fan timelines, but as we said above, the assumed dates and spans of centuries are starting to be corrected faster than some fans might like. We’re basing our timeline purely on what the storytellers themselves have explained, what the characters offer up for timeline details in-universe, and what the films’ mythology states about its own ancient (or Middle Ages) happenings.

In other words, prepare to have some of your assumptions about the DCEU’s more recent history blown away, in our compiled timeline:

  • 800 – Enchantress & Incubus Imprisoned: Beyond confirming that Enchantress and her brother, Incubus, hail from pre-Columbian South America, the specifics of exactly who worshipped the pair as gods is unclear. Their is some evidence in the film and its accompanying material that form a link between them and both the Inca and Maya people. Combine that with the fact that the pair were eventually overthrown and imprisoned in magical bottles (until June Moon opened one), and a link can be made between the fall of these civilizations, and the Suicide Squad villains’ disappearance. For history nuts, the fact that the golden age of the Mayans came to an abrupt halt, and collapsed by 900 AD seems a perfect connection to the (temporary) disappearance of Enchantress and Incubus.
  • 1000 – Atlantis Sinks: Yes, believe it or not, the Aquaman movie reveals that the city/empire of Atlantis existed in all its glory, above the surface, far longer than most will expect. Vulko’s claim that Atlantis had unlocked the secrets of unlimited energy “when the rest of the world still thought the Earth was flat” doesn’t exactly narrow the window, but he suggests that the fall of Atlantis due to King Atlan’s pride coincided with the monarch’s self-imposed exile. So when the Karathen guarding Atlan’s remains claims it has guarded the relic from the unworthy for 1,000 years, fans have to ask: how soon after Atlantis’ sinking did Atlan disappear? If it’s immediate, as makes the most sense, then Atlantis fell beneath the waves just as the vikings began to make their way across the North Atlantic. And this isn’t the only change fans will need to accept, either.
  • 1100 – Ares Slays The Olympian Gods? Some fans point to the mention of the Amazon beacon not being lit for “5,000 years” as an indication of The War of The Gods, when Ares finally revolted, killing the rest of his kin until Zeus fought back, and created Themyscira to safeguard the Amazons. But that’s not a one-to-one deduction, and since Zeus fathered Diana with Hippolyta around the same time, it would make Wonder Woman 5,000 years old, too. Since director Patty Jenkins has given her opinion that Wonder Woman is only 800 years old, it puts the vanquishing of the Olympians and the disappearance of the Amazons closer to the year 1100.
  • 1918 – Steve Trevor Comes to Themyscira: The dates of The Great War make Steve Trevor’s arrival easy to place, and kicks off what will turn out to be the last great DC superhero adventure for much of the century. Until Steppenwolf decides to try again…

Page 4 of 4: The Age of The Justice League Begins

At long last, we can leave the earliest, prehistoric (for the rest of the world) days of the DCEU behind, and shift from a time when key events were millennia apart to the modern age, when entire world-changing events happen in the span of months, not years. It is here, in the wake of wonder Woman putting an end to Ares and giving mankind their future back, that the DC heroes we know best begin to emerge. And for those who prefer their timelines confined only to the times in which the movies release, it’s the point at which the major, movie-featured moments start dropping left and right. It may have taken the history of the world to unite the Justice League, but the time spent building out the past of DCEU’s cosmic side was worth it.

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It wasn’t Superman’s intention to trigger a new wave of heroes just by stepping into the spotlight, but if general Zod’s hope was to prove Earth was weak, his insistence on Superman announcing himself to the world certainly backfired. Wonder Woman stopped hiding from her true calling, The Flash, and Aquaman were all next to follow suit, being drawn out due to their lineage as the descendants of those ancient tribes who fought off Steppenwolf the first time around. The biggest moments from this section of the timeline will be most familiar to movie fans, since a majority of them are shown on-screen.

That being said, the films only show one character at a time, without highlighting how one formative moment or trauma in the life of a future Justice League hero falls in relation to their future teammates. Some satisfying, possibly even poetic comparisons and contrasts become visible when folded into one massive narrative. We’ll spare details where these dates are clear, but see for yourself how the last half-century of the DCEU took shape, step by step:

  • 1974 – Thaddeus Sivana Summoned & Rejected By Shazam
  • 1980 – The Death of Krypton, Kal-El Survives
  • 1981 – The Death of The Waynes, Bruce Survives
  • 1982 – STAR Labs Acquires The Mother Box: “US Gov Object 61982” accepted as the year of acquisition.
  • 1984 – Wonder Woman Discovers a New Threat
  • 1985 – Arthur Curry is Born
  • 1988 – Clark Kent Discovers His Powers
  • 1994 – Victor Stone is Born
  • 1995 – The Batman is Born: Based on Bruce’s claim of “twenty years” as vigilante.
  • 2004 – Billy Batson is Born
  • 2010 – Harley Quinn & Joker Kill Robin: As shown on Harley’s Suicide Squad rap sheet.
  • 2013 – Superman Kills General Zod
  • 2015 – Superman is Killed
  • 2016 – The Suicide Squad Saves Earth From Evil Gods
  • 2016 – The Justice League Saves Earth From New Gods
  • 2016 – Aquaman & Mera Save Earth From Ocean Master
  • 2019 – The Shazam Family Saves Earth From The Seven Sins

Looking at the bigger picture developing here, the stakes have certainly been elevated with the coming of this age of heroes. We can only hope that the future of the DCEU will somehow return to a period of relative calm after so many threats to life on Earth as we know it. But somehow… we doubt that Warner Bros. and DC Films are going to take their foot of the pedal any time soon.

This timeline is sure to be adjusted, expanded, and hopefully locked into place as more films are released within DC’s shared universe. When they are, we’ll do our best to keep the DCEU Timeline complete, and updated with the latest canonical information for the comic book fans who share Bruce Wayne’s own affection for a paper trail.

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2019-04-07 12:04:24

Andrew Dyce

Star Trek: Discovery’s Red Angel Is From Another Timeline – All The Evidence

Star Trek: Discovery‘s Red Angel is clearly from an alternate timeline that is similar, but not identical, to the Prime Star Trek timeline. The identity of the Red Angel is the abiding mystery of Star Trek: Discovery season 2, and the series is doing a good job of building up the sense of intrigue.

The Red Angel’s mysterious plans are at the heart of Star Trek: Discovery. It appears to have chosen Spock and Burnham as its agents, intervening to save Burnham’s life when she was just a child. Its goal is also becoming increasingly clear: it’s attempting to avert an act of cosmic genocide, working against a rogue artificial intelligence that threatens all organic life in the universe. The being’s secrets are sure to be revealed soon, since next week’s episode is called “The Red Angel,” which presumably means the Discovery crew is finally going to unmask the creature. That makes this the perfect time to take stock of what is now a near-certainty: that the Red Angel originates from an alternate future timeline.

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The Red Angel has been appearing throughout history. Its first recorded appearance was in 2053, when it intervened in World War III to save a group of soldiers and civilians who were huddled in a church in Richmond, Indiana. More recently, it visited Spock during his childhood and ensured he saved his sister from being killed by a savage Vulcan creature. It’s only recently that the Red Angel has chosen to make itself known on a cosmic scale, causing significant disruption on Saru’s homeworld of Kaminar and preventing the Ba’ul from committing an act of genocide. That last appearance left a rift in time and space, clearly indicating that the Red Angel travels through time.

Fitting with this, the Red Angel has intimate knowledge of the timeline. When it appeared to the young Spock, it projected an illusion into his mind that showed where his runaway sister was – and that she was about to be killed. Spock was able to tell his parents where Burnham was, and they got there in time to save her life. More recently, the Red Angel revealed the seven lights to Spock before they flared into existence, again indicating that it has knowledge of what is yet to happen. Most disturbingly, it has also given Spock visions of a universal apocalypse, of the end of all life in the cosmos. It’s reasonable to assume that, just as Spock was able to prevent his sister’s death, the Red Angel hopes the crew of Discovery can avert this horrific future.

Saru’s enhanced vision revealed that the Red Angel is a human, wearing an advanced suit beyond anything the Federation has ever seen. When Spock briefly managed to establish a mind meld with the Red Angel, he sensed loneliness and desperation. Putting all these pieces together, then, it looks as though the Red Angel is the sole survivor of a cosmic apocalypse that saw all other organic life in the universe destroyed. It has traveled to the past in order to rewrite the timeline, subtly at first but now directly as the key moment draws near. Next week, presumably it will at last reveal itself to the crew of Discovery.

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2019-03-16 07:03:32

Thomas Bacon

Why [SPOILER] In Captain Marvel DOESN’T Break The MCU Timeline

Warning: this article contains spoilers for Captain Marvel

Does Captain Marvel break the MCU’s timeline? Set in 1995, the film is essentially a prequel to the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe. It features a never-before-told adventure of the young Nick Fury, and sees him encounter aliens for the first time. By the end of the movie, Carol Danvers’ example has inspired Nick Fury to propose the Avengers Initiative.

But that makes Captain Marvel a massive retcon, with a new character written into the history of the MCU. The problem with retcons is that they can cause problems with continuity; the more complex the continuity, the more likely there’ll be a problem. The MCU timeline is a complex one, involving 21 movies, a range of popular tie-in comics, and a large slate of TV shows. As a result, Captain Marvel always had the potential to seriously disrupt the timeline.

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In reality, Captain Marvel is a masterpiece of continuity, with the script carefully avoiding any major contradictions – including with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. But one specific issue has drawn a lot of criticism from fans; the use of the Tesseract. There’s a serious amount of confusion online about just how the film’s use of the Tesseract fits into the MCU’s continuity, with some claiming it’s an outright continuity error. Fortunately, that isn’t the case.

  • This Page: Everything We Learn About The Tesseract In Captain Marvel
  • Page 2: Why Captain Marvel Doesn’t Break The MCU Timeline

According to Captain Marvel, by the late 1980s the Tesseract was in the hands of Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S., a joint USAF/NASA operation attempting to create advanced propulsion systems and high-tech aircraft. Their experiments somehow drew the attention of the rogue Kree scientist Mar-Vell, who had grown disillusioned with her race and their warmongering ways. Mar-Vell aimed to find a way to save the Skrulls from extinction at the hands of the Kree, and decided the easiest way was to give them the technology to go so far away that they would be beyond the Kree’s reach. She believed Tesseract energy could be siphoned off to create a faster-than-light drive that would prove to be the salvation of the Skrull race.

Taking the identity of Dr. Wendy Lawson, Mar-Vell infiltrated Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. and soon took charge of the Tesseract project. By 1989 she had developed a prototype engine, and incorporated it into a revolutionary vessel called the Asis. A blend of human and Kree science, the Asis was designed to fly faster than anything in the entire galaxy; where traditional aircraft produce contrails, the Asis generated a comet’s tail of energy waves. Unfortunately Mar-Vell’s treachery had been discovered by Starforce Commander Yon-Rogg, who had been carefully monitoring events on Earth. Yon-Rogg and Minn-Erva shot down the Asis and killed Mar-Vell, intending to take the experimental engine for the Kree. USAF pilot Carol Danvers, Mar-Vell’s pilot, intervened; she shot the engine, triggering an explosion of Tesseract energy that she absorbed. Mar-Vell’s plans were stalled, and Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. discovered that the dead Lawson had stolen the Tesseract. Unable to work out what had happened, they did their best to bury the Tesseract experiments and pretend they’d never taken place at all.

Lawson had taken the Tesseract to her cloaked Kree ship, which was hidden in orbit around the Earth. She’d already been quietly secreting Skrull refugees there, preparing to take them somewhere they would be safe once her experiments were complete. And so the Tesseract waited, hidden, for six years – until the events of Captain Marvel, when Carol Danvers was returned to Earth and discovered the truth about the Kree and the source of her powers. Although she retrieved the Tesseract, it was swallowed by the Flerken known as Goose the cat; she coughed it up sometime later on Nick Fury’s desk.

Related: The Tesseract Has Appeared In More Marvel Movies Than Captain America

Captain Marvel adds a lot to the story of the Tesseract; but it doesn’t actually contradict the timeline at all. Putting the pieces together, the timeline looks something like this:

  • The Tesseract was originally the jewel of Odin’s treasure room, and a sketch in Thor suggests that he used its power liberally.
  • In 1409, the All-Father decided to hide the Tesseract away in Tønsberg, Norway. It was secreted away by a Norse sect, and became the stuff of legends on Earth.
  • The Tesseract remained hidden until March 1942, when it was finally discovered by the Red Skull alongside a copy of the Book of Yggdrasil. Hydra learned how to tap into the Tesseract’s power, and used it to create a wave of advanced Hydra weapons and vehicles. Fortunately they were opposed by Captain America and the SSR.
  • At the end of Captain America: The First Avenger, the Tesseract was lost in the Atlantic Ocean. shortly after, it was retrieved by Howard Stark.
  • The timeline is a little unclear at this point, but according to Iron Man 2 Howard Stark worked with Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S.. Presumably he was part of the Tesseract research group, and the notes Tony Stark flicked through in Iron Man 2 – which featured a sketch of the Tesseract – were from that period.
  • The Kree scientist Mar-Vell infiltrated P.E.G.A.S.U.S., and by 1989 had taken charge of the Tesseract project. It’s possible that Howard Stark was aware of Mar-Vell’s true identity and purpose, given Mar-Vell managed to steal the Tesseract and take it to her ship.
  • The Tesseract was rediscovered in 1995, but was swallowed by a Flerken. Goose eventually coughed it up on Nick Fury’s desk.
  • Nick Fury sent the Tesseract back to P.E.G.A.S.U.S., but once he became Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. he pushed for S.H.I.E.L.D. to establish a presence at what had previously been a USAF/NASA facility.
  • In 2011, Thor arrived on Earth, a being from Asgard – the place S.H.I.E.L.D. believed the Tesseract came from. In the post-credits scene of Thor, Fury recruited Erik Selvig into Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. to lead the Tesseract experiments.
  • In The Avengers, Loki successfully stole the Tesseract from Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S., and used it to help the Chitauri invade Earth. The invasion was stopped, and Thor used the Tesseract to return to Asgard. According to the Thor: The Dark World Prelude, Odin used it to restore the Bifrost.
  • The Tesseract remained in Odin’s Vault until Thor: Ragnarok, when Loki secretly retrieved it. Loki was forced to hand the Tesseract over to Thanos at the beginning of Avengers: Infinity War; the Mad Titan broke it open to retrieve the Space Stone, which he placed within the Infinity Gauntlet. Its power – along with the power of the other five Infinity Stones – was ultimately used by Thanos to erase half the life in the universe.

Related: Marvel Movie Timeline: A Complete History Of The MCU

Page 2: Why Captain Marvel Doesn’t Break The MCU Timeline

In truth, the timeline fits together perfectly; Captain Marvel complicates it a little, but that’s about it. Howard Stark is already associated with Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. thanks to Iron Man 2, so it makes sense that P.E.G.A.S.U.S. had been experimenting with the Tesseract since before Howard died in 1991. What’s more, given the Red Skull had used the Tesseract’s energy to power his Valkyrie bombers, it’s hardly surprising that NASA and the USAF believed it could create a whole new wave of advanced vehicles.

The Avengers showed one phase of Tesseract experiments. But that doesn’t mean there were no earlier phases, nor does it indicate that earlier experiments had seen absolutely no success. Captain Marvel doesn’t break the timeline at all; yes, it’s a surprise retcon, but it actually fits rather logically with the established continuity.

Surprisingly, the MCU’s continuity survives Captain Marvel pretty much intact. There are only a handful of real continuity issues, the most prominent of which lies with a photograph of Nick Fury shown in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. The photo clearly shows Nick Fury being sworn in – most likely as director of S.H.I.E.L.D. – by Alexander Pierce. According to Pierce, he first met Fury when he was further on in his S.H.I.E.L.D. career, and was chief of Bogota Station. And, crucially, in the photograph Nick Fury clearly has both eyes intact. That photo suggested Nick shouldn’t have lost his eye so early on in his time at S.H.I.E.L.D..

Other minor continuity issues – such as the question of how Nick Fury could know Howard Stark so well in Iron Man 2, or his claim in The Avengers that Asgardians were the first aliens S.H.I.E.L.D. had encountered – aren’t too difficult to explain. As Tony Stark explained in The Avengers, “[Fury’s] a spy, Captain. He’s the spy. Even his secrets have secrets.” All these other continuity issues rest solely on the idea that Nick Fury was telling the truth, but he’s never been a particularly honest and up-front man, so presumably, he was lying on both occasions. The first lie would have been informed by Howard Stark’s recordings, and was necessary to get Tony to listen to him; the second was an attempt to defuse an argument that was increasingly out of control and risked causing Bruce Banner to Hulk out on a S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier. In both circumstances, Fury would have considered himself wise not to tell the truth.

Then, of course, there’s the matter of how Fury lost his eye – an event he told Steve Rogers happened “the last time I trusted someone” during the events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Of course, leave it to Nick Fury to lie about the fact a cat scratched his eye out and instead use the injury as a way to motivate someone to do what he wants.

More: Captain Marvel: EVERY Easter Egg & Secret Reference


2019-03-09 02:03:07

Thomas Bacon

X-Men: A Timeline Of The Mutant Franchise

With the recent release of the latest trailer for Dark Phoenix, X-Men fans are chomping at the bit for any morsel of new X-Men knowledge. After all, the future of this series is really up in the air. Dark Phoenix has been surrounded by publicized complications, as has the upcoming New Mutants, and could very well be the final movie in this particular franchise before the Marvel Cinematic Universe takes control and totally revamps it.

Perhaps this is a good thing, since the series has one of the most complicated and messy timelines in cinema history. Even the most devoted fans have troubles grasping it. This article will do its best to lay the X-Men movie timeline out as simply as possible even though there are tons of contradictions within the flicks. Without further ado, here is the entire timeline of the X-Men franchise.

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10 X-Men: First Class (2011)

If we’re following the main members of the X-Men, First Class would be the first movie in the timeline as it contains the formation of the group. However, there are key events that happen before. Most of which happens in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. This includes Wolverine’s younger years in the 1800s, as well as his involvement in the Civil War and WW1. The Wolverine also contains a sequence from WW2 where Wolverine saves Yashida’s life. Then, of course, Apocalypse shows far earlier scenes that involve the world’s first mutant in pre-3600 B.C.

But First Class contains important milestones such as Magneto’s WW2 origins and Xavier’s team stopping Sebastian Shaw from starting World War 3 during the 1960s; an event that reveals the presence of mutants to the government.

9 X-Men: Days Of Future Past (2014) – Past Sequence

The majority of Days Of Future Past is spent in the 1970s, where governments have already begun to crack down on mutants, thanks to the events of First Class and Magneto’s possible involvement in the demise of JFK. Trask creates the Sentinel Program and Mystique does her best to take him out.

In the original universe, this event would cause a war that would all-but eradicate the mutants. This is why the future X-Men send Wolverine back in time to bring Xavier and Magneto together in order to stop her. This eventually works and completely resets the X-Men movie timeline (with a few twists) paving the way for the latest X-Men movies. However, if this didn’t happen, we would be in the original timeline…

–Before The Reset: Original Timeline–

8 X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)

Thanks to the events of DOFP, we have two timelines running in parallel. But for now, we’ll spend time on the original timeline which begins with X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Here Wolverine has his adamantium skeleton and seeks revenge on William Stryker and Sabretooth. Xavier also rescues Cyclops from Stryker and (for some reason) is still able to walk. This is also where we are introduced to the first (and worst) version of Deadpool.

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At the end of the film, Wolverine is hit with an adamantium bullet which causes him to forget the events of the movie and go off into the wilderness; something we all wished happened to us after seeing the movie.

7 X-Men (2000)

This is where the very first X-Men movie comes into play. Wolverine and Rogue are rescued from an attack by Magneto’s Brotherhood and brought back to Professor Charles Xavier’s school. We are introduced to the already established group of X-Men including Cyclops, Storm, and Jean Grey, who Wolverine quickly falls for. The group is forced to stop Magneto from turning all the world’s leaders into mutants in order to prevent a war that he knows is coming. Little did the X-Men know, Magento was completely right about this.

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Wolverine then decides to leave the X-Men in order to discover his past which he tries desperately to remember.

6 X2 (2003) And X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)

X2 and X-Men: The Last Stand represents the very best and the very worst of the original timeline. In the fantastic X2, Wolverine returns after finding nothing about his past. He helps the X-Men and Magneto’s Brotherhood stop Col. Stryker from using Xavier against the mutants. This is where he learns about his past and puts it behind him. But the win is not without casualties as Jean sacrifices herself to save them all.

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However, in The Last Stand, we learn that Jean’s Phoenix Force saved her and released a dormant monster within. She goes on a warpath that even Magneto can’t control. This ends badly for Xavier and Cyclops, among many others. Meanwhile, a mutant “cure” is made and forced upon many mutants. Luckily for them, the “cure” doesn’t stick with everyone.

5 The Wolverine (2013)

After the events of The Last Stand, Wolverine has gone into hiding. He’s miserable about the demise of Jean, who haunts his dreams. Eventually, he’s brought to Japan to say goodbye to Yashida, who he saved years earlier. Wolverine finds out that Yashida is trying to take his mutant healing powers in order to prolong his life. This gets him into a mess with Viper and The Silver Samurai that sees his adamantium claws removed.

In the post-credit sequence, Magneto warns him that a war is coming thanks to a new advancement in Trask Industries. Additionally, Xavier is revealed to have reformed his body. Actually, his resurrection is kind of swept under the rug.

4 X-Men: Days Of Future Past (2014) – Future Sequence

The post-credit sequence from The Wolverine leads us to the future events from Days of Future Past. Here, Wolverine has miraculously grown back his adamantium claws just in time for a catastrophic war with the Sentinels that leads to the extinction of most of the mutants. He, Magento, Xavier, and the surviving X-Men hatch a plan to send him back in time to stop Mystique from starting the war back in the 1970s.

As we’ve spoken about, this plan works and resets the timeline. It affects the original timeline positively, as all of the X-Men, including Cyclops and Jean, return from their demise and live in peace. But in the new timeline, the drama is just about to go down…

— After The Reset: New Timeline —

3 X-Men: Apocalypse (2016) And Dark Phoenix (2019)

After the events of Days of Future Past, the original timeline was reset and paved the way for this new one. In X-Men: Apocalypse, we see Jean Grey and Cyclops as teenagers at Xavier’s school, Wolverine captured by Stryker, and Magneto off on his own. However, this changes when they have to come together to stop Apocalypse who returns after a particularly long slumber.

The film is set in 1983 and radically alters what we thought would happen with the characters moving forward. We see Storm, Angel, and Nightcrawler’s origins in a whole new way, and even get the events that set up the upcoming Dark Phoenix movie that will take place in the 1990s.

2 Deadpool (2016) And Deadpool 2 (2018)

The two Deadpool movies take place sometime in the 21st Century after the reset in the new timeline. This was proven by a cameo in Deadpool 2 that showed the younger versions of Xavier, Cyclops, and Storm. Although it’s not obvious when the films take place exactly, they more than likely happen after the upcoming Dark Phoenix movie as they aren’t set in the 1990s.

Deadpool and Deadpool 2 don’t impact the X-Men Universe too much. But they do alter Wade Wilson’s story from X-Men Origins: Wolverine (thankfully) when Wade uses Cable’s time machine to leap into the old timeline. They also include some of the less important X-Men characters like Colossus.

1 Logan (2017)

Although Logan could take place in either timeline as it’s a stand-alone piece, it’s likely that it takes place long after the events of X-Men: Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. Here, Wolverine has aged and become ill, as has Professor Xavier, who has lost control of his incredible powers and may have accidentally taken out his fellow X-Men.

The pair live in a world where most of the mutants have gone extinct thanks to a government that has modified food to suppress the X-Gene. The pair come across a young mutant who transforms their lives and gives them a bit of hope for the next generation, even if that means leaving the old behind.

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The History Of Westeros: The Essential Game Of Thrones Timeline

A Song Of Ice And Fire or, as the show is titled, Game Of Thrones, is a vast world with a very extensive history. The events George R.R. Martin has created are so detailed and go so far back that it’s sometimes hard to believe this isn’t a real world, and it makes us wonder exactly how he comes up with and remembers it all.

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Some of the history is extremely relevant to what’s happening in the world of Westeros right now, so if you’ve forgotten some of it or just never knew, take a look through this timeline compressed as much as possible. We sadly can’t note down every detail, or both the writer and reader would be here for years, but this is a good guide to the essentials!

8 Dawn Age (Beginning Around -12000 AC)

This was the beginning of Westeros; when the First Men arrived from Essos. The Children of the Forest were the first ones to live there, and it’s still unknown exactly how long they did live in Westeros for; but the First Men came and took over, crossing into the land that would eventually become Dorne.

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There was a war between the First Men and the Children of the Forest, although information has lately shown that they may actually have worked together more than they were at war. This age lasted more than 2,000 years, although much like most of the information from back then, the exact details are unknown.

7 Age Of Heroes (Beginning Around -1000 AC)

When the Dawn Age ended, the Age of Heroes commenced. There was a pact between the Children of the Forest and the First Men, although a lot of kingdoms rose and fell during this time since it took a while for a system to be clearly worked out and agreed to. Most of the noble houses’ history seems to begin during this time, and a lot of the structures we’re familiar with now were built — such as Winterfell, and even the Wall itself.

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It was mostly a peaceful era, but the longest and darkest winter Westeros has ever seen did belong to this time.

6 The Andals And The Seven Kingdoms (Exact Time Unknown)

The Andals crossed the Narrow Sea under the banner of the Faith of the Seven, the major religion known in Westeros at the time that the show and books take place. The First Men and Children of the Forest fought against them as they attempted to conquer Westeros much like the First Men had, and the war went on for centuries as the religion spread across the land and they began to raise their own kingdoms.

The details about this time period are fairly unknown, and it could have taken place any time between -8000 AC and -2000 AC. All we know for sure is that it was long before Aegon conquered.

5 Aegon’s Conquest (-2 AC-0 AC)

Aegon the Conqueror invaded Westeros around -2 AC and managed to overthrow most of the Seven Kingdoms pretty quickly, establishing his capital in King’s Landing. Using three dragons to secure his reign, he melted the weapons of his enemies after winning into the Iron Throne; the throne that would later be fought over fiercely. He appointed most of the noble families at the head of their regions after his victory, although Dorne successfully managed to defend their territory and remained independent.

This began the Targaryen Dynasty sitting on the Iron Throne, a family reign that would last 300 years.

4 The Targaryen Reign (1 AC – 282 AC)

The Targaryens began to rule over Westeros, but it was not an easy rule. With so many problems in the family—mainly due to the intermarrying and dragons at their disposal—there were plenty of wars (most notably, the Dance Of The Dragons, a civil war which involved a fight for the Iron Throne between Targaryens).

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The last Targaryen king to rule was Aerys II, who was perhaps the maddest of them all and would burn his enemies with wildfire. He intended to finish King’s Landing and all of its inhabitants by burning them alive and burning the city to ashes.

3 Robert’s Rebellion (282 AC – 283 AC)

Aerys had opposition in his plan from Robert’s Rebellion. Robert Baratheon claimed that the war was started over Aerys’ madness, when in reality he was jilted because his beloved ran away with Aerys’ son. Falsely claiming it was an abduction, he raised his banners against Aerys and the war that would later become known as Robert’s Rebellion won.

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Robert managed to slay Rhaegar Targaryen at the trident and Jaime Lannister slit Aerys’ throat, leaving the Iron Throne to be usurped by Robert. He placed himself on it, ensured there were no more Targaryens left to challenge him in Westeros, and so began the reign of House Baratheon on the throne.

2 Robert’s Reign (283 AC – 298 AC)

House Baratheon’s reign was a short one. For 15 years Robert ruled in relative peace, with the only Targaryens who could have possibly challenged him far away in Essos. He married Cersei Lannister and created three children with her, leaving an heir to the Iron Throne in the event of his passing.

The Lannister influence became extremely heavy over the throne with Cersei as queen, Jaime on the Kingsguard, and Tywin Lannister very close — the most dangerous of all of House Lannister. Upon Jon Arryn’s death, however, Robert Baratheon decided to ask Ned Stark to be his Hand, a friend he could trust and one starkly different from the Lannisters.

1 A Song Of Ice And Fire (298 AC)

The books and/or show pick up with Robert traveling North to ask Ned, and we’ve all seen the rest. The discovery that Joffrey isn’t truly Robert’s son, Robert’s so-called hunting accident engineered by his wife, and all that followed. The Iron Throne has cycled through to the Lannisters now, and an even greater threat looms from the North, leaving some people to wonder if the fight for the throne even matters any more.

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It’s become fairly clear that however Westeros ends, it will be a changed system; the Iron Throne has had so many monarchs sat on it that yet another simply wouldn’t be a satisfying ending. Maybe it’ll be melted down, maybe it won’t exist at all after the White Walkers reach it. We’ll see.



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2019-02-23 01:02:41

20 DC Characters Who Can Be In James Gunn’s Suicide Squad (And Who Should Play Them)

James Gunn may be off the Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 project after being fired by Disney for some controversial tweets surfaced from long ago, but not only has he apologized and insisted that he’s a much different person than he was at that period in his life; he’s reportedly also getting another stab at creating a comic adaptation with the next Suicide Squad film.

While Marvel fans mourn the loss of the man behind some of the best movies in the MCU, it’s quite possible that Gunn will give the DC universe the boost it desperately needs to really compete with Marvel.

While we’ll have to wait and see what the actual film brings to the party, we have plenty of time to speculate about what its plot might be, what kind of tone to expect and above all, which characters might be included and who might be cast in those roles. While many of us are hoping to see some members of the Squad from the first film return, we’re also crossing our fingers, wishing for a chance to meet more members who weren’t included in the first movie. There’s really an endless amount of speculation to enjoy here and many fans have already photoshopped their choices for the best portrayals of characters audiences have loved for decades.

Casting for these iconic personalities won’t be an easy task, but here are 20 DC Characters Who Can Be In James Gunn’s Suicide Squad (And Who Should Play Them).

20 Christina Ricci As Harley Quinn

Let’s be honest: Margot Robbie is a sure-in for Harley Quinn at this point. The star surprised many fans while proving others right with her incredible performance as the psychiatrist turned psychopath. Ensuring that Quinn not only shone as the premiere talent in a film with its problems, but that she would endure for her own film afterward, Robbie is a fan favorite, through and through.

We could definitely see this version of Harley in a Gunn movie.

If for some reason Robbie had to back out of the project, as much as it would pain fans, some have taken to casting other ideas for actresses who could play Harleen Quinzel. Artist D3SIGNMILTIA’s piece depicts an interesting version of the character that might work well with Christina Ricci.

19 Joaquin Phoenix As The Joker

We’ve seen so many incarnations of The Joker over the years that it’s getting more and more difficult to choose the perfect person to play an updated version of Batman’s most notorious foe. Whether or not he’ll be in the next Suicide Squad film is unclear. Who can measure up to Jack Nicholson’s chilling Joker and Heath Ledger’s perfect monster?

Joaquin Phoenix, currently starring in Todd Phillips’ solo Joker, is certainly one candidate. Phoenix, who’s also utilized some unorthodox acting methods in the past, might give us a bit more grave swagger as the criminal mastermind. His ongoing presence in the DCEU will likely depend on the success of Joker, due out in October 2019.

18 Neil Patrick Harris As The Riddler

Everyone’s favorite child doctor has grown up to become a much beloved singer, showman, and nemesis of the Baudelaire children. Neil Patrick Harris shines in just about everything he’s in, so including him in the next installment of Suicide Squad makes perfect sense.

Harris as the Riddler is pure gold.

He’s got the chops to bring the perfect blend of humor and intelligence that the Riddler needs to truly succeed, which might hopefully replace the slapstick Riddler we got in Batman Forever years ago. Harris isn’t everyone’s favorite for the Riddler, though; stay tuned for more artist manipulations involving the Riddler later.

17 Manu Bennett As Deathstroke

Given the fact that the Arrowverse and TV adaptations of DC stories have proven so successful, it makes sense to borrow from that character pool to not only connect the universe but to help ensure the success of Suicide Squad 2. If Gunn and company are planning on including Deathstroke in the sequel, we think Manu Bennet would be a clear choice for the character.

While some fans speculate that Joe Manganiello will play the part, since he is Mr. Wilson in Justice League and has announced that he’s working on three more films featuring the character, his involvement in Suicide Squad 2 remains speculation at this point. Many believe that Deathstroke will indeed be a primary villain in the film, and Bennet has already proven that he would do the character justice.

16 Sophie Turner As Oracle

Lots of fans are imagining Marvel actors in DC roles, which is pretty delightful for those of us who Make Ours Marvel and DC. Sophie Turner, who gave us the Jean Grey that we were waiting for in X-Men: Apocalypse and is set to reprise the role in Dark Phoenix, would also make an excellent Oracle.

Barbara Gordon’s time as Oracle has included a gig as tech support for the Suicide Squad.

With Ruby Rose’s debut as Batwoman and a Batgirl movie announced, the inclusion of Oracle could provide some timeline intrigue. Plus, after decades of Batman saturation, this much Bat-women power would be so much fun.

15 Oprah Winfrey As Amanda Waller

Viola Davis was a pretty stellar Amanda Waller, which comes as no surprise to anyone who has ever seen Viola Davis in anything. Davis could read a grocery list and deserve an Oscar. That said, Kode Logic has imagined what Oprah might bring to the role and we have to say that it looks impressive. Firm, ruthless and beautiful, Oprah’s Waller seems to give the character a bit more experience points, which are conveyed in that hard gaze.

Davis has said that she loved playing Amanda Waller, who is aligned so well with her character Annalise Keating in the hit TV drama How to Get Away with Murder in many ways, but how much fun would it be to see Oprah bend the rules?

14 Will Smith As Deadshot

You don’t mess with what works, and Will Smith certainly worked as Deadshot in the original Suicide Squad. He did so well, in fact, that plenty of people thought that he deserved his own film and said that they’d have watched Suicide Squad again if it only starred Smith. This really isn’t a surprise, given Smith’s star power, and it’s been announced that he’s returning to the franchise in the role again.

It’s a good thing that we have some time before the movie’s released, too, since Smith is set to star in Bad Boys for Life and Bright 2 around the same time. Smith’s got three films releasing in 2019 alone, and while one is only a vocal role, he’s definitely going to be busy for the next couple of years.

13 Jeffrey Dean Morgan As Batman

Utter the words “Jeffrey Dean Morgan” in the same sentence as “The Batman” and you’re bound to get a room full of excited fans. He’s absolutely perfect for Wayne in an adaptation of something like Batman Beyond, but we could definitely see him as the Batman in just about any adaptation of the series, and DeviantArt user evelius has given us some visual art to really picture the idea.

Morgan has the darkness and the voice necessary for Batman to match this ragtag team of violent convicts.

While Bale and Affleck had their time in the cowl, it’s time for a new man behind the mask. Why not Negan?

12 Rila Fukushima As Katana

While Katana was featured in the first Suicide Squad film, most people believe her role was too small to really critique or appreciate. Japanese-American actress Karen Fukuhara wasn’t bad in the role; she just didn’t get much to do.

Adding Rila Fukushima in the second movie might lend Katana some traction given that she already portrays the character in the Arrowverse.

While Fukuhara, who is set to play Glimmer in the new She-Ra and the Princesses of Power TV series, is rumored to be reprising the role, Fukushima, star of last year’s Ghost in the Shell, was also fantastic as Yukio in The Wolverine, which would give us another fun link between the DC and Marvel universes.

11 Emma Stone As Poison Ivy

Who doesn’t love quirky, smart, and funny Emma Stone? The actress would be perfect for an updated role as Poison Ivy following Uma Thurman’s beautiful but wonky portrayal of Pamela Isley. One of BossLogic’s many creative manipulations, this artwork features Stone as the iconic plant-loving villain and it’s pretty impressive.

We already know that Ivy will be a big part of the upcoming Gotham City Sirens film, which will also feature Harley Quinn and Catwoman at its heart, so why not include her in the Suicide Squad movie as well? There are several other cool artist manipulations of actresses who might be great in the role, such as Jessica Chastain, so it’s going to be a tough one to cast.

10 Kristen Wiig As Cheetah

Many of us can’t stop celebrating Kristen Wiig being cast as Cheetah in Wonder Woman 1984. The strongest thing the DC movies have going for it right now is all the incredible female characters, most notably Harley Quinn and Wonder Woman, and we can’t wait to see where Aquaman takes us. If all goes well it would make perfect sense to include Wiig in Suicide Squad 2, especially since weaving in characters from multiple films would help provide better continuity for the DCEU.

Wiig is funny, smart, and beautiful, and we think she’s going to make an excellent foe for Wonder Woman.

In that case, her inclusion in another movie would also be fantastic to see.

9 Nathalie Emmanuelle As Vixen

DeviantArt artist farrou has created some truly amazing fanart of DC characters, and one of them, which features Nathalie Emmanuelle as Vixen, makes us believers. While we’re not sure if Emmanuelle has a Tantu Totem, we’re pretty sure she could make it work if Gunn and co. gave her one. The actress, best known for her role as Missandei on HBO’s Game of Thrones, is definitely ready for a a super suit and action in a big movie like this.

Then again, Jada Pinkett Smith has expressed interest in the role of Vixen, which would not only be interesting due to her husband’s presence in the movie but also due to her previous DC role as Fish Mooney in the TV series Gotham. Both actresses would be well-cast for the movie.

8 Jake Gyllenhaal As The Riddler

Do we really need the Riddler to come out and play in Suicide Squad 2? After the weirdness of Batman Forever and the sinister developments of Gotham, perhaps it’s time to reinvent the villain. Jake Gyllenhaal makes sense to play the villain not only because he was David Goyer’s original choice to play Batman in the Christopher Nolan movies, but because this fanart made by Vaskoho is something to behold.

While there are several people who could pull off the role, we think Donnie Darko has a fighting chance.

Fans point out that there were some Riddler Easter eggs in the Batman v Superman movie, so it’s possible that we’ll see The Riddler on film someday.

7 Dave Bautista As Bane

Can we all agree that, no matter the context, Dave Bautista must appear in Suicide Squad 2? Not only has the Drax actor delighted us all with his hilarious yet poignant portrayal in the Guardians of the Galaxy series, but he’s also publicly stated that he supports Gunn and wants to be involved in his next project.

We’re pretty sure any role could be molded to make room for such a beloved actor, but as as BossLogic has pointed out, he’d make an excellent Bane. After having two Banes that didn’t work so well in the Batman universe, we could definitely use a fresh face for the role. If he’s not Bane, Bautista would make a fantastic Solomon Grundy, too. We’re not too picky on this one.

6 Michael K. Williams As Black Manta

Could Black Manta make an appearance in Suicide Squad 2? It’s too early to rule anything out and many fans think he’d make a good inclusion, particularly following the Aquaman movie. While the majority of his screen time might simply have his head shrouded in a big bubble, his casting would be nonetheless important. Artist diamondking13 suggests actor Michael K. Williams for the job and we love the idea.

It would be cool to see how Gunn and co, would update the suit for a more modern, movie-friendly look.

Famous for his critically acclaimed roles in The Wire and Boardwalk Empire, Williams was just cast in Jordan Peele and Misha Green’s Lovecraft Country, but Suicide Squad 2 is far enough in the future to give him time for both gigs.

5 Bill Skarsgård As The Joker

This one is a no-brainer. Many of us just don’t care to see Jared Leto return as The Joker and it’s quite possible that The Joker won’t even see a second of footage in the second film. While we’d all probably be okay with that, if a new Joker is cast, Bill Skarsgård is a fantastic choice.

Skarsgård is hot right now following his success as Pennywise in the new adaptation of Stephen King’s It. He also played a less troubling character in Castle Rock over the summer, proving his mettle yet again in King’s world. Considered one of the good things to come out of Netfix’s Hemlock Grove, Skarsgård could probably do the Joker justice, as artist aikoaiham has shown.

4 Teresa Palmer As Killer Frost

After witnessing Killer Frost in the Arrowverse, many fans are calling for her inclusion in Suicide Squad 2. DeviantArt creator farrou has imagined what it might look like if Teresa Palmer played the villain and it’s a pretty spot-on representation.

The Australian actress is no stranger to action movies and could do well in the role.

Kristin Bauer van Straten has already voiced Killer Frost in the animated Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, while Danica McKellar voices her in Lego DC Superhero Girls. She’s also been in 2009’s Public Enemies animated feature between Batman and Superman, but she’s never been in a live action movie before. Danielle Panabaker portrays the character in The Flash, but she hasn’t made a film in a few years.

3 Jon Bernthal as Rick Flag

Jon Bernthal is another actor already present in the MCU, portraying the most accurate and adept version of the Punisher we could ever hope for, so tossing the talented actor into the DC mix would just be plain fun. It’s not that Joel Kinneman was terrible as Rick Flag, and he’s done a great job standing up for the original film and its purpose, but Jon Bernthal would just be better.

The skill Bernthal has in striking that tricky sweet spot between ruthlessness and gravitas while still being a compelling, empathetic human being isn’t something anyone can do. Artist Riku7kun shows us what Bernthal as Flag might look like. It’s a little bare in comparison to Kinneman’s look, but that might actually work with Bernthal.

2 Josh Gad As The Penguin

It’s no secret that Josh Gad wants the role of The Penguin, having pushed for it himself in social media, and fans are clamoring for the opportunity to see the voice of the snowman, Olaf, and Gaston’s buddy LaFou in a much more sinister role.

Whether or not Gad will show up in The Batman remains to be seen but he definitely has the flippers to play the beloved villain.

BossLogic has given us some art imagining what he might look like in the role and it can only get better from here. In March, Gad started hilariously trolling Matt Reeves on Twitter, sending him animated penguin GIFs and hinting at what he could bring to the Batman franchise.

1 Margot Robbie As Harley Quinn

It’s an obvious inclusion, but it’s necessary. While the original Suicide Squad, hyped up to be the most incredible DC movie of all time, had plenty of problems, most fans and critics agree that the shining star of the whole production was Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. Robbie’s portrayal was everything we hoped for– brutal, nuanced, and a delicate balance between her joker obsession and Harley coming into her own person without being too over-the-top.

Who isn’t excited to see Robbie return as Harley in theBirds Of Prey adaptation featuring the awesome women of DC, which is so ardently anticipated that it pushed Suicide 2 to the back burner? After this much love, Robbie has to be in this universe.

Who do you most want to see in a new Suicide Squad movie? Let us know in the comments!





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2018-10-11 02:10:45 – Sara Schmidt

The Disney-Fox Deal Will Close January 2019

The Walt Disney Company and 21st Century Fox’s major merger is coming together faster than anticipated and will now officially be completed on January 1, 2019. Fox has plenty of success over the years through a variety of media outlets, but determined they could not properly compete in the movie and TV space. They looked to sell these branches of the company and quickly found Disney to be their preferred buyer. Comcast attempted to pull the deal out from under Disney’s reaches, but simply made them pay them pay $71 billion for Fox’s assets instead of the initial $54 billion bid.

There has been plenty of resistance to the deal because of the monopoly Disney continues to grow and the job losses that will come from it. From Disney’s perspective, they view the Fox acquisition as a great way to enhance their library of content prior to launching their own streaming service late next year. Throughout the process, it was anticipated that summer 2019 would be when the deal would close, but it’ll actually be much sooner.

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Variety shared the news that 21st Century Fox president Peter Rice told Fox employees the merger will be “ready to close” on January 1, 2019. This effectively means that 2018 will be the final year for this current look of Fox and moves up the timeline for the merger as a result.

Disney and Fox shareholders officially approved the terms of the merger back in July, less than a month after the Department of Justice approved the deal on their own. The studios have since been seeking approval in various countries around the world, while also figuring out the new hierarchy of Disney in a post-merger landscape. For Rice’s part, he’s joining Disney as a top TV executive. Disney recently made several of these types of moves official, while other executives have already found jobs elsewhere for when the merger closes.

The accelerated timetable of the deal comes after reports that a late 2018 finalization could be possible. They will miss this mark by a day it appears, as both studios now hope to become one at the turn of the calendar year. This is all barring some unforeseen mishap with the deal, but considering how well the deal has gone so far, it is difficult to imagine anything coming up now that would hinder them from completing the deal on Jan 1. After all, Rice told this to all of Fox’s current employees in a town-hall setting at their Los Angeles studio, so they must be confident that this date will stick. How quickly changes, such as cancellation of some projects or Marvel Studios’ plans for the X-Men, are made from then on remain to be seen. But, we do at least now know when the merger will be completed.

MORE: Marvel Has Time To Put X-Men Into Avengers 4 (But Probably Won’t)

Source: Variety



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2018-10-10 01:10:31 – Cooper Hood

The Flash Confirms [SPOILER] Still Happens In Barry’s Future

Warning! SPOILERS for The Flash season 5 premiere ahead!

The Flash season 5 premiere just revealed the full impact of the Crisis of 2024 – the future event from which comes the newspaper headline, “Flash Missing, Vanishes in Crisis” – and it’s not good.

As far back as season 1, we’ve known thanks to the future edition of The Central City Citizen stored in Gideon’s archive that come April 25th, 2024, The Flash would disappear. Some details have changed with the various timeline shake-ups, but that fact remains the same – during a battle with the Reverse-Flash, Barry disappears. We also know that when they disappear they actually travel back to March 18th, 2000, where the Reverse-Flash attempts to kill a young Barry but instead kills his mother. The Reverse-Flash then tries returning to his own time but can’t because he’s been disconnected from the Speed Force, and what follows leads to season 1 of the show.

Related: The Flash Fixes Plot Hole By Secretly Changing Arrowverse History

As for The Flash, it’s been assumed that after saving his past self, but not his mother, Barry returns to 2024 to face whatever new timeline awaits him. But as we learn in tonight’s season 5 premiere, that isn’t at all what happens. Nora, Barry’s daughter from the future, shares with 2018’s Barry a newspaper headline dated April 25th, 2049 which reads: “25 Years Later – Flash Still Missing.” So The Flash did not return home after chasing the Reverse-Flash to 2000, and by the time Nora travels to the past to spy on her parents, he has yet to return.

Nora’s behavior makes a lot of sense now that we know her father has been missing since she was a toddler. All throughout the premiere, she’s spouting off factoids she learned by studying every single one of his adventures, and when it comes time for their first attempt at sending her back to the future, she hugs Barry like she’s never going to see him again. Nora has clearly grown up not knowing her father so she’s spent a lot of time trying to learn everything she can about him. It’s why she travels back in time – to see her dad in action as The Flash. Of course, with traveling back in time comes the risk of changing the future – something Nora may have already done.

But the more distressing news is what happens to The Flash of the future? Why after following the Reverse-Flash to the year 2000 did he not return for at least another 25 years? The Flash season 5 is absolutely going to explore this, possibly even flashing-forward to that future date and showing what really went on – which, according to Iris’ original article, should see The Flash teaming up with Green Arrow, The Atom, and Hawkgirl to fight the Reverse-Flash as well as the ominous red skies and the immense destruction of Central City.

What The Flash season 5 may also do is explore how it is the future Flash comes back. We know that he must return because in 2056, a future Barry sends a message to Rip Hunter in 2016 warning him of Savitar. So he isn’t gone forever, just a lot longer than we initially thought. Nora’s newspaper has Barry gone for 25 years, and that isn’t exact but it’s very close to how long Barry is gone in the comics after Crisis on Infinite Earths – possibly DC Comics’ most famous storyline and in where The Flash sacrifices himself to save the world. He returns 23 years later in Final Crisis, revealing he had been stuck in the Speed Force. The CW’s The Flash has already done the whole ‘stuck in the Speed Force’ thing, so hopefully it won’t repeat itself, but it does appear as if they are preparing for The Flash of the future to finally make his return after being gone for a quarter-century.

Next: The Flash Season 5: New Cast & Character Guide

The Flash season 5 continues next Tuesday with ‘Blocked’ at 8pm/7c on The CW.



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2018-10-09 07:10:13 – Sarah Moran

Grey’s Anatomy: 20 Things That Make No Sense About Meredith

Grey’s Anatomy is the longest running scripted primetime ABC television show of all time. Ellen Pompeo is the highest-paid actress on television, banking twenty million dollars each season. Grey’s is poised to surpass ER as the longest primetime medical drama, as it waits for its sixteenth season renewal, and it has received thirty-eight Emmy Award nominations during the nearly two decades it has been on the air.

Meredith Grey has gone from a damaged intern having an affair with a resident and caring for her ailing mother to a widow with three children who runs the general surgery department at Seattle Grace. More characters have passed away on Grey’s Anatomy than most shows introduced during their entire runs, and the show is nearly unrecognizable now when compared to its first season because of its revolving cast of characters.

With twenty-nine principal cast members during its fifteen seasons, the writers of Grey’s Anatomy have so much history to contend with that maintaining continuity is an uphill battle that they often lose. As such, there are some details about our favorite dark and twisty surgeon at Seattle Grace that don’t make much sense at all. The confusion goes deeper than the debate on her hair color or who the next romantic lead of the show will be. Everything from her age to her internal motivations have been altered, forgotten and recreated during the show’s epically long run, and viewers are struggling to keep up.

Here are the 20 Things That Make No Sense About Meredith In Grey’s Anatomy.

20 Her Half-Sisters

When a show has been on the air for nearly two decades, it’s understandable that a few plotlines may get recycled. After all, who’s really going to notice if four of the show’s leads are revealed to have massive tumors in a principal cast of over twenty-five characters?

However, it’s hard to believe that Meredith Grey would have two half-sisters who she knew nothing about and that both of those women would come work as surgeons at her specific hospital in Seattle.

This is not even mentioning Lexie Grey’s questionable medical timeline – she started her medical internship program when most students are finishing their undergraduate studies – or Meredith conveniently forgetting her mother’s pregnancy before Maggie Pierce was born in the ’80s.

19 She Doesn’t Contact Derek’s Sisters When He’s About To Pass

Derek Shepard’s sisters were extremely important to him – so much so, that during the second episode of Grey’s Anatomy, Shepard explicitly states that if he were ever to be in a coma, he’d want all four of his sisters with him.

Meredith forgets this not-so-tiny detail when actually faced with a comatose Derek Shepard and takes him off of life support without giving his sisters a chance to say goodbye, including Amelia Shepard, who is her coworker and is easily reachable by phone. Meredith ignoring a key aspect of her husband’s personality, his love for his sisters, is more than an example of Meredith’s selfishness. It’s a lack of continuity and a disappointing, out of character oversight.

18 Getting Together With George

George O’Malley’s unrequited love for Meredith was well-chronicled during the show’s first season, enforcing the characters’ friendship, as O’Malley’s feelings for Meredith led him to provide emotional support when Derek Shepard chose to stay with his wife. Meredith never saw O’Malley as anything more than a friend, even after her break-up with Shepard.

Meredith getting together with O’Malley came from a desire to be wanted and treated well after Shepard had broken her trust, and O’Malley was clearly in denial about Meredith’s lack of interest. Still, it’s hard to believe that O’Malley would take advantage of Meredith in her vulnerable state or that Meredith would choose O’Malley as a physical rebound rather than an emotional one.

17 She Failed Her Intern Exam… And Still Became A Resident

The year 2007 was a rough one for Meredith Grey. Her stepmother passed away from a case of the hiccups, her father blamed her for the loss of his wife, her mom passed away, and she literally passed, and understandably, she cracked under pressure. Meredith didn’t answer a single question on her intern exam.

The logical next step here would have been to see Meredith repeat her intern year like George O’Malley does after failing that same exam.

Meredith would have been able to explore new dynamics with her peers while sorting through her many issues, and the show wouldn’t have to suffer through too drastic of a change. Instead, through some nepotism and a large suspension of disbelief, Meredith is allowed a do-over and breezes through to her residency, while poor O’Malley is given the short end of the stick yet again.

16 Her Inconsistent Pregnancies

After miscarrying her first child due to apparent stress from the Seattle Grace active shooter situation in season six, Meredith is told that the real reason for the loss of her child was actually a “hostile uterus.” Medically, in the real world, this means that it is difficult for a woman to become pregnant due to a variety of factors, including hormonal imbalances. It is treatable through synthetic estrogen or certain bypass techniques and does not necessarily cause miscarriages.

Meredith is able to conceive multiple times during the show, and she even manages to have a fairly normal pregnancy and gives birth to a healthy baby girl. A medical drama probably could have come up with a more realistic plotline for Meredith after writers’ decided that they wanted to complicate her family planning.

15 She Modeled Her Life After Ellis

After hating her mother, Ellis Grey, for most of her life, Meredith follows in her footsteps, as she becomes a mother while still chasing her medical aspirations. Meredith places the blame for her issues on her mother’s workaholic tendencies while raising her daughter, then still chooses to start her family just as her medical career is gaining momentum.

She falls in love with a married man, has his children, raises them alone, and wins a Harper Avery Award, just like her mother. Her professional life causes a rift in her relationship, like Ellis’ Harper Avery nomination leading to the termination of her relationship with Richard Weber. Instead of learning from her mother’s mistakes, Meredith has done something that she swore she’d never do: she has become Ellis.

14 Her First Marriage Wasn’t Legal

In a touching display of friendship, Derek Shepherd and Meredith Grey gave their perfect wedding to their dear friends Alex Karev and Izzie Stevens so that the couple could be married before Stevens possibly succumbed to her advanced brain cancer.

Shepherd and Meredith then have their own, private marriage ceremony in the comfort of their own home, where they write their vows on Post-It notes and promise their lives to each other.

This was all romantic and dramatic, but why on Earth would they not bother going down to City Hall and legalizing the marriage at any point before they tried to adopt their daughter? They most likely already had a marriage license, and the tax benefits alone would have been incentive enough to go through with the final step of their marriage – actually getting married.

13 She Tried To Hold Derek Back

It isn’t easy having a family with two working parents. Nannies help, and Seattle Grace has shown its daycare center on Grey’s multiple times, but Meredith’s frustration with being a mother first and a surgeon second rang true as it was depicted onscreen. Asking Derek Shepherd to take a year off from his practice to give Meredith the opportunity to work was brave and fair, considering the time that she had taken off up until that point.

However, expecting Shepherd to turn down the opportunity of a lifetime at the White House was out of character and unreasonable. Shepherd staying at Seattle Grace meant accepting a demotion, while Meredith could have kept her seniority in DC. Staying behind without Shepherd ran contrary to Meredith’s character development, especially since she expected Shepherd to make himself smaller rather than thriving with him.

12 She Ran Away To San Diego

A large factor in Meredith’s reluctance to move to Washington D.C. came from a fear of airplanes that developed after the plane crash that ended the lives of multiple doctors at the end of season eight. This makes sense, considering the circumstances. What doesn’t make sense, however, is how Meredith fled from Seattle to San Diego following her husband’s loss, telling no one of her location or her miracle pregnancy.

Her decision to choose Seattle over her husband indirectly lead to his passing, but once he’s gone, she immediately leaves. Her love for him wasn’t enough to keep her with him, but his loss was enough for her to ignore all of the reasons she had fought to stay. It’s confusing, upsetting, and utterly heartbreaking.

11 She Stayed At Seattle Grace

During season eight’s plane crash, Cristina Yang keeps asking why all of the doctors at Seattle Grace lose their lives. It was a tongue-in-cheek joke anticipating a question that all Grey’s viewers have at least once during the series. There are shootings, bombs, car crashes, drownings, a flood, a power outage, a bus explosion, and an earthquake during the twenty years that Meredith has worked at Seattle Grace.

At least fourteen doctors and family members have passed away under unusual circumstances at the hospital, filling it with horrible, PTSD-inducing memories.

Somehow, Meredith still works there. After losing parents, a sibling, a husband, best friends, and coworkers, she never thought to just go across town to the other, better-ranked hospital and leave a hospital that is so unlucky it might be on top of the Hellmouth.

10 She Still Has Her Medical License

In order to help Richard Webber’s wife Adele, Meredith enrolls her into her clinical trial for patients experiencing rapidly progressing Alzheimer’s. She tampers with the trial to give Adele the experimental drug rather than the placebo, even after Derek Shepherd’s warnings that doing so would ruin both of their careers.

Of course, because this is Meredith Grey, once her wrongdoing was exposed, no one suffered any long-term consequences. Richard takes the fall for Meredith to protect her job, but neither one loses their medical license. Richard eventually becomes the head of the residency program, while Meredith is the head of general surgery. Shepard had no real backlash for being involved. Everyone was just fine and still eligible to perform surgeries in a respected hospital, somehow.

9 She Considered Herself The Other Woman

After learning that Derek Shepherd was a married man, Meredith halted her physical relationship with him, only being intimate with him one time after learning of his marital status. She legitimately felt guilt for unknowingly dating someone’s husband and didn’t actively try to home-wreck Addison Montgomery’s marriage.

Despite the fact that many of her actions during this complicated time were respectful of Montgomery and her marriage, she still bonded with Mark Sloan when they realized that they both considered themselves homewreckers. Meredith’s characterization centers around her “dark and twisty” tendencies, so her pessimistic framing of the situation would make sense in her own mind, but there’s logically little to support her enduring belief that her relationship with Shepard began with any wrongdoing on her part.

8 She Is Still Alive

Meredith’s self-destructive and occasionally life-threatening tendencies put her in many dangerous situations. She has nearly escaped passing away so many times that its statistically improbable that she would still be alive. Setting aside the fact that she briefly drowned while helping at a ferry boat crash site, Meredith’s life makes no sense because anyone else who’d had this many close calls would not longer be with us.

Meredith held a bomb inside of a patient’s body and barely handed it off before it exploded in the hands of the bomb technician.

She also had prolonged exposure to toxic blood, she drowned for a long time, she asked an active gunman to shoot her, and her plane crashed. Yet here she is, waiting for the next ridiculous trauma that life throws at her.

7 She Barely Talks To Cristina

Cristina Yang was Meredith’s person. More than a best friend, a husband, or a family member, Yang was the one person who Meredith always relied on and trusted. Since Yang left Seattle Grace for Switzerland, all we’ve really heard from her was that Meredith didn’t tell her where she had run away to after Derek Shepherd’s car crash.

There was no confirmation that Yang came to Shepherd’s funeral, as she didn’t stay with Meredith after his passing or visit her newborn child and nary a text has been sent between the two onscreen. Long-distance friendships are hard, but with modern technology like Skype, FaceTime and texting, completely dropping off of the face of the Earth is a cause for confusion.

6 She Gives Thatcher Part Of Her Liver

The last viewers had seen of Thatcher Grey, he had drunkenly, publicly blamed Meredith for his wife’s passing and uninvited her from the funeral. This comes after he abandoned her and started a shiny new family that allowed him to forget about the daughter he left behind.

Even if Thatcher treating Meredith horribly wasn’t enough to dissuade her from saving his life, a complicated position to navigate, Thatcher had multiple daughters and presumably many other family members. Even if Lexie and her sister weren’t matches, how was there no other family member able to donate their liver other than his estranged daughter? There’s no reason it should have been Meredith except as an opportunity to inflict more unnecessary pain on our protagonist.

5 She Had A Busy Two Years

Everything that happened over the first five seasons of Grey’s Anatomy occurred during a two year period. Because the intern year occurs during seasons one through three and Meredith’s first year of residency is seasons four and five, there are many plotlines that happen in a short timeframe.

Plotlines such as George’s marriage and divorce with Callie, Denny Duquette’s storyline with Izzie Stevens, and Christina’s doomed engagement to Preston Burke all happen over the course of less than twelve months.

Meredith and her friends have known each other for only two years by season six, and so much crazy drama has occur in the midst of eighty hour work weeks and eight hour surgeries that it’s almost like they could fill half a decade’s worth of life experience.

4 She’s Always Drinking

Meredith drinks a lot of tequila for a doctor. While she’s shown abstaining from drinking while on-call, Meredith spends most of her down time getting drunk at Joe’s Bar or at home, and even had to be hooked up to an IV during a massive accident to sober herself up for work.

The state of near-constant hangover that she must be functioning in would make her workdays impossible, and the likelihood that she’s be called in during her downtime to work during a disaster situation at Seattle Grace, the grand mecca of disaster, is fairly high in the world of Grey’s Anatomy. How she manages to drink so often without a sponsorship from Pedialyte or AA is a mystery to us all.

3 Her Age

In the script for Grey’s pilot, Meredith is supposed to be thirty-two years old. After taking time off to travel through Europe with Sadie and to care for her ailing mother, it’s understandable that Meredith would be older than the average medical intern. It’s clear that the Grey’s writing team put some thought into Meredith’s backstory in the early years of the show and realized that between taking the MCAT and helping Ellis, there’s no way that Meredith could have started her internship at the median age of twenty-seven.

Meredith’s birth year is confirmed as 1978 multiple times during the course of season eleven, retconning her initial age to be twenty-eight. The writers probably weren’t too concerned about continuity ten years after the fact, but Meredith’s original age made much more sense than her current one.

2 Her Disappearing Children

After a hullaballoo regarding who should watch the children and how to be an active parent and a surgeon, Meredith’s children have completely disappeared from the show after Derek Shepherd’s passing. The children are occasionally referenced, but haven’t been shown in the hospital daycare, her home, or her carpool.

Her children have become an afterthought, despite the fact that they were the main source of conflict between Shepard and herself before he passed away.

Some of these children should be starting school, while others are still in infancy, but having Meredith completely forget that she chose to give birth and adopt multiple children erases multiple seasons of character development geared towards family and motherhood.

1 She Has Gone Through An Improbable Amount Of Trauma

As mentioned multiple times, nothing seems to go right for long in the life of Meredith Grey. Meredith’s mother passes away while Meredith was unconscious, she lost her husband, her boyfriend had a wife, she nearly passed away multiple times, she couldn’t have children, and everyone she knows left or passed away.

Every aspect of her life, from family to spouses to friends, ends with a major trauma and loss. She’s still continuing on with her life and career, while most people would be deep in therapy and rarely leaving their homes if faced with the same amount of sorrow. Meredith is a strong woman, but what she has been through could drive even the most optimistic individual to depression.

Are there any other aspects of Meredith’s character that make no sense in Grey’s Anatomy? Sound off in the comments!



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2018-10-09 01:10:23 – Kristy Pirone