The Witcher: Timeline, Flashbacks & Connections You Missed

Warning: SPOILERS ahead for Netflix’s The Witcher

The timeline of Netflix’s The Witcher may seem complicated, telling three different stories, following three different leads, through three surprisingly different periods of time. But the show doesn’t keep the separation a secret. In fact, it uses it to expand the history of The Witcher‘s world… even if most viewers may miss the clues and connections the first time through.

Whether you notice it in the first episode of the season or the last, it eventually becomes clear that The Witcher is set in three different timelines. And while most shows or movies may use such a device — without explicitly explaining it to the audience — for the sake of a twist, a mystery, or greater ‘reveal,’ that isn’t the case for The Witcher. The goal is showing the same world through three different characters, at three different times, and what happens when they collide. And believe it or not, The Witcher was giving viewers clues and references to assemble the complete timeline from the very start.

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The fact that The Witcher never ‘reveals’ the three timelines as a grand twist, but a storytelling device that slowly locks into place… may actually confuse audiences more (since that’s not the usual way for a show or movie to show its ‘brilliant’ conceit). But to help viewers appreciate that storytelling at work in The Witcher, we’re breaking down every timeline clue, reference, and connection in each episode. Starting with the one thing viewers crave most: an explicit timeline.

Since the show itself never mentions specific years, and features two leads who can span decades without visibly aging, it’s safe to say years are passing between every appearance. The show confirms as much by having Geralt’s legend grow, or referring to further trysts between he and Yennefer. In Episode 5, Jaskier calls out the passing time directly when he stumbles upon Geralt fishing for a genie, asking him: “What’s it been, months? Years? What is time, anyway?” But for those who will be helped by seeing the show’s event laid out by year, the original books by Andrzej Sapkowski give a few concrete birthdates and battles, around which we’ve approximated the rest of the series.

  • 1170 – The Great Cleansing of Elves
  • 1173 – Yennefer is born
  • 1190 – Yennefer attends Aretuza
  • 1230 – Yennefer becomes mage of Aedirn (approx.)
  • 1232 – Calanthe named queen
  • 1233 – Calanthe wins The Battle of Hochebuz
  • 1234 – Geralt meets Renfri
  • 1235 – The Usurper overthrows Nilfgaard
  • 1237 – Princess Pavetta is born
  • 1252 – Princess Pavetta is married
  • 1253 – Ciri is born
  • 1257 – The Usurper is killed
  • 1260 – Yennefer and Geralt meet (approx.)
  • 1263 – Nilfgaard invades Cintra

The timeline may help some, but every single viewer will want to know the clues and references they missed. For those in episode by episode breakdown, read on below!

The split timelines of Yennefer, Geralt, and Ciri are going to be picked up on at different speeds by every viewer, but the time difference between what viewers think is happening concurrently  — Geralt meeting Renfri and the invasion of Cintra are in reality close to thirty years apart — is given away in the very first episode. Which means if there is one line of dialogue that detail-oriented viewers will be kicking themselves over, it’s this one.

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When Queen Calanthe and Eist discuss the threat posed by Nilfgaard’s army on the march, Princess Ciri butts in wanting to know more. But when it’s implied that she is too young for such matters, Ciri fires back, telling her grandmother, “you won your first battle in Hochebuz when you were my age.” The connection to Geralt comes just minutes later. When discussing what she could have been, Renfri chooses a familiar reference. “Queen Calanthe of Cintra?” she mentions to Geralt, “She just won her first battle at Hochebuz.”

Do the math and assume Queen Calanthe was no older than fifteen at Hochebuz, and is near forty-five in Ciri’s time (the actual age of actress Jodhi May), and you have your time gap perfectly established. Add the fact that Stregobor is in hiding dissecting princesses, and he’s a far cry from the mage he’ll be shown as in episodes to come.

The second episode, “Four Marks,” does the legwork of explaining the history of Elves and Humans as it applies to each of the leads. It is Ciri who first stumbles onto the blood feud, first by meeting Dara (though she doesn’t know he’s an Elf just yet), and eventually meeting a Cintran refugee with a necklace made of grisly souvenirs:

They’re Elf ears. I killed them all. Doing my part to avenge human lives lost in Filavandrel’s uprising… The Elves call him ‘King.’ Last year, he tried to claim Cintran land. My brother got an arrow in the brain. Every day, I make sure his death’s not in vain.

Viewers don’t yet know Filavandrel, supposed ‘King of the Elves.’ But any suggestion of a villainy is soon dispelled when Geralt is taken prisoner by refugee Elves, and meets Filavandrel in the flesh. Those who already realized Geralt is still a decade or two in Ciri’s past won’t be surprised to see Toruviel, one of Filavandrel’s followers, promise “a new generation of Evellien who wish to fight! Let us take back what’s ours.” Sadly, viewers know how that uprising turns out.

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The point being made is clear enough, showing how suffering people can be painted as villains by enemies. To complete the trio, the final scenes of the episode deliver the reveal that Yennefer is of Elf blood, responsible for her magic (her strength) and her disfigurement (her weakness). Istredd explains how far back the lies go, revealing Humans slaughtered the Elves that taught the first mages, too. Cue Jaskier to close out the episode with “Toss a Coin to Your Witcher,” educating Geralt on lies growing into legends.

The world-building coinciding with layering of themes continues into Episode 3, “Betrayer Moon,” as the kingdom of Nilfgaard is established. The idea of a complacent ruler ignoring their kingdom’s peril applies to both Nilfgaard of the past, and Queen Calanthe’s pride in the future. But it all begins with Geralt, anchored squarely in between the two, facing an idle king of his own. And for fans of royal history, betrayals, and stolen crowns, this dive into Nilfgaard is exactly what you’ve been waiting for.

Episode 3 actually explains almost everything viewers need to know about Nilfgaard, starting with the miners Geralt agrees to help. With their King Foltest ignoring their deaths, one suggests following the example of Nilfgaard, whose people starved as their king ignored them. “Then someone came. The Usurper.” That’s the real history of Nilfgaard being communicated to the viewer, and a later scene confirms as much (from a more… influential perspective).

When the mages of the Chapter meet to discuss the state of Nilfgaard years before Geralt, Stregobor reveals King Fergus has yet to be overthrown, still “spending the kingdom’s money on women as his people starve to death.” To give the viewer a more specific sense of when this scene is taking place, the mages then address the state of Cintra. Hoping that a new heir may be more tolerant or inviting to their order, Tissaia says the dying king’s daughter Calanthe is even more stubborn. In the process, confirming this part of the story is only a few years before Calanthe takes the crown, and Stregobor meeting Geralt a few years later in Blaviken.

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The politics exchanged in the Chapter’s meeting will be difficult to follow unless viewers have committed the names of the young witches and their homelands to memory (again, turn on the subtitles). But the original plan of sending Yennefer back to her home country, and Fringilla to Nilfgaard, is soon derailed. Determined not to serve a perverted fool like King Fergus, Yennefer takes matters into her own hands. When she stuns the King of Aedirn into instant affection, Fringilla realizes her fate now rests in Nilfgaard. But viewers should remember: King Fergus is about to be overthrown by The Usurper. And in a few more decades, Nilfgaard rises high enough to conquer Cintra. Thanks to these storylines, viewers can start to spin theories on exactly how they pulled it off…

Any questions about the timeline are more or less answered with Geralt finally meeting Queen Calanthe (at age thirty-four, in case anyone was wondering), and establishing the birth year of Ciri. But the fourth episode, “Of Banquets, Bastards and Burials” also colors in more of the timeline both in the past and future. For starters, Geralt has silently spanned almost twenty years from the day Renfri informed him of the teenage queen’s victory to her daughter’s wedding. When considering the place Renfri has earned in Geralt’s conscience, and how Jaskier’s tales have spread far and wide, it makes sense. Especially considering Geralt’s not-quite-natural aging.

But the true dramatic irony of the scene is reserved for those who have paid close attention to the world-building and history. When ‘Lord Peregrine of Nilfgaard’ makes his offer to Calanthe and Pavetta, he is humiliated by Calanthe’s jab that “Nilfgaardian kings don’t remain kings for long. Who will take The Usurper’s crown, you?” Knowing Nilfgaard will destroy her kingdom in a little over a decade, one could even suspect Lord Peregrine does take The Usurper’s crown, with this very insult the fuel for his conquest. But the truth… is far more complicated.

The dramatic irony is driven home when the episode shifts from Calanthe’s banquet to a vision of Cintra burning in the ‘present.’ Enter Fringilla, having clearly put her decades of service to Nilfgaard to good use, brutally killing a servant for the sake of magic. The following episode brings Yennefer and Geralt colliding together before spanning the gap between the witcher claiming Ciri as a child of surprise, and him embracing his destiny to seek out Ciri in the present day.

Hopefully these clues and connections can be appreciated aside from The Witcher itself, although repeat viewings will make them hard to miss (especially once viewers know where the three timelines collide and collapse). And if future seasons of The Witcher follow the stories told in the books, expect these same empires, conflicts, and events to become more and more important.

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2019-12-28 04:12:05

Andrew Dyce

The Mandalorian Corrects The Empire’s Fall In The Star Wars Timeline

The Mandalorian has helped to correct the circumstances of the Empire’s fall in the Star Wars story. At the climax of both Return of the Jedi and George Lucas’ original Star Wars trilogy, Luke Skywalker defeats Darth Vader, who is then compelled to finally turn his back on the Dark Side and kill the Emperor. Meanwhile, Han, Leia, Lando and the rest lead an assault on the Empire’s base at Endor to prevent the completion of a second, half-built Death Star. After success across the board, the Rebels party the night away with their furry Ewok friends, safe in the knowledge that the Empire had finally been brought down and freedom would now reign throughout the galaxy.

Many post-Return of the Jedi stories in the form of comic books, novels, etc. have demonstrated that this wasn’t actually the end of the Rebel Alliance’s struggle, and what followed was a mopping-up campaign that saw the Rebels hunt down and destroy the remaining strongholds and outposts still under Empire control. Not only does this make logical sense, but it lead to some fascinating side stories that didn’t detract from the Rebels’ decisive win on Endor. However, the Aftermath novels took things a step further.

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Star Wars: The Force Awakens introduced the planet of Jakku, and immediately announced the location’s importance in Star Wars mythology by revealing it as the graveyard of Star Destroyers, X-Wings and other remnants from the old war between the Empire and the Rebel Alliance. Evidently, a great battle had taken place on this previously unseen backwater planet. Chuck Wendig’s Aftermath book trilogy filled in the blanks left by Star Wars: The Force Awakens, revealing that Jakku was the location of the Empire’s last stand, and the place where the Rebels finally claimed victory once and for all.

Led by a follower of Palpatine himself, Gallius Rax, the dredges of Empire forces from across the galaxy assembled on Jakku, inviting the freshly-formed New Republic to come and get them. Just over a year after being defeated on Endor, the Battle of Jakku began, raging on for several months even after the Empire had formally surrendered. When all was said and done, the Empire was no more and the ill-fated era of the New Republic truly began.

The Battle of Jakku, and indeed the entire Aftermath trilogy, encompasses several critically acclaimed stories, but the remolding of the Empire’s defeat made Endor feel far less significant in the grand scheme of the Galactic Civil War, with Jakku replacing it at the decisive final battle.

The Mandalorian has been praised for its Star Wars world-building, fascinating main character and, of course, Baby Yoda, but the Disney+ series has also tightened up some areas of franchise canon by explaining and expanding upon previously vague elements. Episode 4, “The Sanctuary,” does something similar, helping to reestablish the importance of the Battle of Endor. When the Mandalorian meets former Rebel Shock Trooper, Cara Dune, on Sorgan, she explains her reasoning behind quitting the Rebel Alliance and hiding out on such a remote planet.

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Dune asserts that everything changed after the Battle of Endor. Suddenly, she was being assigned to escort political delegations rather than missions to dig out the lingering stench of Imperial forces across the galaxy, so she opted out and left the New Republic to their diplomacy. This exchange confirms that it was the Battle on Endor, not Jakku, that signaled the demise of the Empire, and that Palpatine’s defeat was the game-changing moment, as originally told in Return of the Jedi. Jakku may have been the final stage in the Rebels’ cleaning up operations, but The Mandalorian positions Endor as the more important victory once again.

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The Mandalorian continues December 6th on Disney+.

2019-12-05 03:12:17

Craig Elvy

Texas Chainsaw 3D’s Timeline Makes No Sense: Plot Holes Explained

2013 sequel Texas Chainsaw 3D is riddled with problems, but by far the most bothersome is the script’s completely nonsensical timeline. 1974’s The Texas Chainsaw Massacre – or The Texas Chain Saw Massacre as it’s also referred to – is a certified classic of the horror genre, and a film so gritty and realistic that at times it really feels like the viewer is looking through a window into a world of madness. Unfortunately, its sequels aren’t in the same league, to put things mildly.

1986’s The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 saw Tobe Hooper return to direct, and while it’s not a bad film, the tone is much more comedic, and it trades in genuine scares for straight-up gore. 1990’s Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3 plays things straighter, but it still mostly comes off as a pale imitation of the original. 1994’s Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation is so bad that some would put it in the running for worst horror sequel ever. Skipping over the 2003 remake and its own 2006 prequel, we come to 2013’s Texas Chainsaw 3D, which tried to serve as a direct sequel to the first film.

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That’s an admirable goal, and if done well, actually could’ve beat Halloween (2018) to that particular gimmick of retconning the other sequels and referencing only the original. Sadly, Texas Chainsaw 3D wasn’t done well, at all. Its problems abound, but the worst is its strikingly illogical timeline.

The opening of Texas Chainsaw 3D is set not long after the first film, which was released in 1974, and canonically set in August 1973. It sees an angry mob set fire to the Sawyer farmhouse, killing Leatherface’s entire family, except for Loretta Sawyer and her young child Edith Rose. Loretta is then killed, with Edith Rose taken in by a couple and raised as their own. That’s all well and good, until we get to the film proper. The protagonist is Heather Miller (Alexandra Daddario), and while her age isn’t stated onscreen, Daddario was 25 when the film was shot, and could pass for younger.

That’s where the timeline falls apart, as Heather is summoned back to Leatherface’s hometown to collect an inheritance, after a grandmother she never knew she had dies. While films aren’t always set in the year they come out, the grandmother’s tombstone is seen, and it says she died in 2012. Predictably, it’s later revealed that Heather is actually the grown-up Edith Rose. However, Edith Rose was a baby in the 1973-set opening. That would mean she should be roughly 39-years-old in 2012. If Daddario is 39, she’s somehow discovered the fountain of youth.

It’s a glaring plot hole of the highest order, and once one has noticed it, it’s impossible to forget. Amusingly, one of the three credited writers, Adam Marcus (director of Jason Goes to Hell), has explained that the draft he penned set the film in the 1990s, which would’ve made perfect sense. But later changes made to the script inexplicably moved the setting to present day, leaving fans at the time of Texas Chainsaw 3D‘s release baffled.

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2019-11-25 02:11:22

Michael Kennedy

Terminator: Dark Fate – 5 Changes To The Timeline We Like (& 5 That We Don’t)

The most recent film in the Terminator franchise, Terminator: Dark Fate, recently opened to mixed reactions and a somewhat tepid box office performance. And honestly, that’s not that surprising. The movie is undoubtedly a very entertaining action movie in its own right, and seeing Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger reunited on screen decades after the first film was epic. Honestly, even just seeing Linda Hamilton return as Sarah Connor was worth the admission price on its own.

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However, aside from the movie’s obvious bright spots, there were some elements of the film that were great changes and some that just fell flat. For better and for worse, Terminator: Dark Fate has basically rewritten the entire Terminator timeline after the conclusion of Terminator 2: Judgment Day. Obviously that means there have been some pretty massive changes to the overall story, and here are 5 changes to the timeline that we liked, along with 5 that we didn’t.

10 Like It: An Altered Future

Although changing the future inevitably causes some serious issues with plot continuity and can needlessly complicate things sometimes, it’s nice to know that all of Sarah Connor’s work and sacrifice actually had an effect on the future.

Since judgment day has already come and gone it kind of required any future films to address that the robot apocalypse didn’t actually happen, at least not yet. And beyond that, John Connor has always been built up as the last, best hope for all of humanity, so it was definitely intriguing and pretty inspiring to realize that humanity would still find a way to fight back, with or without their messiah.

9 Don’t: Legion

So while changing the future is something that really makes sense at this point in the Terminator franchise, the whole “Legion” thing feels like it’s either a bridge too far or not far enough. Apparently the future has been altered enough that the machine threat is no longer Skynet, it’s something called Legion.

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Which appears to be functionally identical to Skynet in every sense but in name. If the future has changed, then it needs to actually be different. And ultimately it seems like a mistake for Terminator: Dark Fate to rework all of the original elements of the franchise by making the film essentially the exact same story but removing nearly all of the aspects of the franchise that people were invested in.

8 Like It: Human Machines

If only Kyle Reese had been outfitted with an insane amount of mechanical upgrades before being sent back in time to save Sarah Connor, maybe the entire human vs. robot conflict in the past could have been ended in The Terminator.

The human fighting contingent in the future is certainly lucky to have the kind of medical care that makes this possible, but Grace’s entire setup seems like a brilliant way to fight back against the robots. Fighting fire with fire, so to speak. If the machines are going to constantly up their game, then people need to be doing the same.

7 Don’t: Feeling Machines

In fairness, obviously the machines that exist in the future are supposed to be somewhat sentient beings. However, it doesn’t appear that any of the terminators were designed with sentience in mind, and it doesn’t make any sense that they would be either.

A terminator that can think for itself and experience any kind of emotion is likely going to be far less effective than a pure killing machine, and the fact that the terminator that terminated John Connor suddenly seemed to develop some kind of consciousness just doesn’t make any logical sense. Plus, to be honest, it’s just kind of lame.

6 Like It: Double Duty Terminators

One of the clear biggest struggles of the continuing installments into the Terminator franchise is that each film has to improve upon the previous terminators and make them more threatening and interesting in some way. And in some instances, the films have succeeded, but in others, they’ve failed.

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And although the Rev-9 isn’t much of a character in its own right, it is at least a really cool machine. The Rev-9 has incorporated the classic terminator design, the liquid metal terminator design, and given them both an edgier look. Oh, and they have made the liquid metal and metal base capable of operating independently of each other.

5 Don’t: Octopus Terminators

So there are a lot of things that movie-goers need to overlook in order to suspend disbelief and enjoy a movie. And when it comes to the Terminator films, something that might not be the most effective in reality but is obviously visually more effective in the films is having terminators that resemble humans.

Of course there are probably more powerful mechanical designs for slaughtering people, but an evil looking humanoid robot is obviously a much more compelling visual image. And it seems like Terminator: Dark Fate wanted to bridge that gap with one of its more bizarre creations, a terminator that looks like Doc Ock, but the machine seems like the worst of both worlds instead of the best.

4 Like It: A Female Messiah

The Terminator series is iconic for a lot of reasons, but one of the most memorable and unique aspects of the franchise is that it established a female character as a true action hero. And so since the franchise has decided to kill off it’s future messiah, John Connor, it seemed to make a lot of sense to make the new messiah into a female character as well.

Sarah Connor spent her life preparing herself and raising her son to be the hero of the human race, so it’s pretty cool that Dani Ramos just decided to be the hero of humanity herself.

3 Don’t: Sarah’s Irrelevance

Sarah Connor is undoubtedly the most iconic character in The Terminator, and is arguably one of the most legendary characters in the history of science fiction and action films. John may have been destined to save humankind, but Sarah is the character that everyone loved.

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So with John gone, it was understandable that she was no longer “the great Sarah Connor”, but it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense that she was pretty much nothing. Sarah wasn’t the mother of the savior anymore, but she spent her entire life destroying terminators, which you’d think would catch the attention of the machines and humans of the future.

2 Like It: Sarah’s Influence

It’s hard to say this for sure, but the ending of Terminator: Dark Fate at least heavily implies that Sarah is going to train Dani in all of the skills that she’s going to need to survive and thrive after the robot apocalypse.

And Sarah’s quest has always been to protect her son and make the future a better world than it could be. If she couldn’t do the former, at least she can do the latter. Not to mention, clearly there is no one better than the great Sarah Connor to teach Dani how to be the hero she needs to be, and that’s a great reminder of the fact that simply being John’s mother isn’t what made Sarah great.

1 Don’t: John’s Death

To give credit where it’s due, the writers and creators of Terminator: Dark Fate certainly started their film off with a bang. Killing young John Connor, the man who might save the world in the future, within the first ten minutes of the movie was absolutely a bold move.

But after the shock has worn off, it’s just kind of a sad move that really undermines all of the previous films in the franchise. It actually would have been really interesting to see a Terminator: Dark Fate with an adult John Connor in it, and John didn’t necessarily have to die for there to be a new future hero in the series.

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2019-11-12 03:11:42

Hilary Elizabeth

Jersey Shore: Ronnie & Jen’s Relationship Timeline Before Arrest

Jersey Shore: Family Vacation star Ronnie Ortiz-Magro’s on-again/off-again relationship with girlfriend Jen Harley recently resulted in his arrest. There has been plenty of relationship drama leading up to Ortiz-Magro’s arrest earlier this month.

According to TMZ, on October 4 Ortiz-Magro was arrested after threatening Harley and chasing her with a knife. The Los Angeles Police Department confirmed their response to a battery in progress around 2:40a.m. Police said Ortiz-Magro was uncooperative, so they were forced to tase him. The couple was spotted out with their daughter on October 7, three days after the incident. On October 11, Harley filed for an emergency protective order, and on October 19, Ortiz-Magro took to Instagram to say that he’s “outgrowing” his ex, Harley. Here’s a look at their tumultuous relationship leading up to the arrest.

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Did He Cheat? During the April 26, 2018 episode of Jersey Shore: Family Vacation, Ortiz-Magro invited another woman back to the house and later shut camera crews out as they entered a bathroom together. He denied cheating on Harley at that time.

Did Harley Cheat? The couple exchanged insults on Instagram on April 29, 2018. Ortiz-Magro accused Harley of being unfaithful, calling her a “HOE” via an Instagram Story. Harley responded to his criticism, saying, “Can’t turn a coke head into a father!”

Ortiz-Magro Spirals: Harley called the relationship off mid-April 2018, stating that Ortiz-Magro hadn’t been totally honest. Kicked out of their apartment, Ortiz-Magro was reportedly not doing well.

Things Get Physical: A physical fight between the couple aired live on Instagram on April 30, 2018. Their relationship is deemed over once again. Shortly after, Ortiz-Magro publicly apologized and posted to Instagram about “removing unnecessary people” from his life.

Ariana Brings Them Back Together: Ortiz-Magro and Harley are speaking again as of May 3, 2018. They agree to co-parent and prioritize raising their daughter.

On Again, Off Again: In a May 2018 episode of Jersey Shore: Family Vacation, we see Ortiz-Magro try to convince his roommates that he didn’t cheat. While that aired, Harley attacked Ortiz-Magro on Instagram, stating, “Arrogance and condescension in always a sign of weakness.” On May 15, the duo got back together. Two weeks later on May 22, 2018, they had fought and called it quits once again.

Get Ready To Rumble: On June 7, 2018 Harley showed up unannounced at the Las Vegas hotel where Jersey Shore was filming and got into a physical altercation with Ortiz-Magro. A source said that the couple had been fighting about their recently deceased dog. On June 24, 2018, Harley and Ortiz-Magro got into a fight while driving. Harley asked Ortiz-Magro to remove himself from the car, but started driving away before he could get all the way out. Ortiz-Magro didn’t go to Seaside Heights to record more Jersey Shore: Family Reunion after Harley’s arrest from this incident.

Together Again: On July 3, 2018, it’s announced that Harley won’t face domestic battery charges. The couple posted a selfie together on July 4, 2018.

Family Vacation: The couple vacationed together as a family in August of 2018 with a trip to San Juan, Puerto Rico. Later that month on an episode of Jersey Shore: Family Vacation, Ortiz-Magro fears that he might lose his daughter to Harley. He took to Instagram to clarify that the season was depicting the couple during a rough patch and that they were “[sticking] together.”

Mixed Messages: In October of 2018, Harley posted to Instagram that she and Ortiz-Magro were the best they’d ever been. On October 24, 2018, Ortiz-Magro posted a large bruise under his eye with a caption that accused Harley of the injury. Harley’s rebuttal showcased text conversations between the two with Ortiz-Magro stating “I fkin love u and ur s—thing on me. I’ll fix it baby.” Later, she said she would never speak to Ortiz-Magro again. The couple celebrated Harley’s birthday in Florida later that month and the Halloween holiday dressed as Harley Quinn and The Joker.

Another Setback: In November 2018, we see Ortiz-Magro get into a hot tub with Angelina Pivarnick’s friend on an episode of Jersey Shore: Family Vacation. He apologized on Instagram stating that the episode was “…edited to make it look worse.” Despite this setback, Ortiz-Magro and Harley celebrated the holidays together.

Ringing In The New Year: Following a fight on New Year’s Eve, Ortiz-Magro and Harley split up again. Ortiz-Magro filed a battery report against Harley after she threw a glass ashtray at him at the Hustler Club in Las Vegas. Shortly after, Ortiz-Magro entered rehab for drug and alcohol abuse.

Back At It Again: In March 2019, the couple threw a first birthday party for their daughter. Despite her arrest on May 16, 2019, for domestic battery, Harley and Ortiz-Magro seem to be working it out until she posted to Instagram in September of 2019 to call Ortiz-Magro out for images that show him with a mystery woman on a boat. Now, fans are hoping that Ortiz-Magro’s latest Instagram post will be the end of his relationship with Harley.

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2019-10-30 01:10:32

Lauren Anderson

MCU: 10 Biggest Moments In The Entire Timeline | ScreenRant

It’s been another big year for the MCU, with Captain Marvel, Avengers: Endgame, and Spider-Man: Far From Home all going down a treat with both fans and critics alike. People are already counting down the days until the franchise returns with the Black Widow solo movie next year, and there’s a reason why: it’s been quite the journey so far.

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With that in mind we now take a look at the 10 biggest moments from the entirety of the MCU so far, explaining what makes them important enough to make the list.

10 Nick Fury Meets Captain Marvel

Captain Marvel’s solo movie released earlier this year and among the biggest revelations from the entire movie was the fact that she and Nick Fury have known each other for quite some time. Years, in fact.

Fury meets Carol Danvers on earth during the early moments of her solo movie as she leads the Kree’s fight against the Skrulls, falling into an old Blockbuster store while pursuing one of them. Eventually they team up, turn against the Kree and ensure the surviving Skrulls live in peace, away from any threat. This is the moment where it’s revealed Fury has been hiding Captain Marvel away from the rest of the world for a time where she’ll be needed. And that time also came this year…

9 I Am Iron Man

Iron Man was the movie that kick-started the MCU, with Robert Downey’s Jr’s portrayal of Tony Stark something straight out of the core comic book material. And while it’s pretty crucial that he beats Obadiah Stane, AKA The Iron Monger, what’s even bigger is what happens at the end of the blockbuster.

In a superhero first, Stark announces to the world that he is Iron Man. And this acts as an open invite to his enemies with many over the coming years trying to topple him and his technological empire. Had Start kept his second job secret, the Avengers could have had an easier time of things. But, because he went public, it presents the perfect opportunity for his enemies to take him down.

8 The Avengers Meet

We knew the Avengers was on the cards as far back as 2008’s The Incredible Hulk, when Nick Fury informs Tony Stark that he’s become part of a world bigger than himself. Therefore, when the Avengers movie came out in 2012, it was always destined to be big.

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And it was. It’s the movie where we see Iron Man, Captain America and Thor all meeting for the first time, with audiences previously getting the chance to know the characters during their respective solo movies. Things start badly with the trio all facing off against each other but they eventually put aside their differences and work together to keep earth safe.

7 The Avengers Win

The first time the Avengers meet was always going to be big – but what arguably triumphs it is the first time they win. This happens in the same movie when New York City finds itself under attack from the Chitauri fleet who are being led by God of Mischief Loki on the orders of Thanos.

It is the start of something special as every member of the team plays a key role in keeping the city and its population safe from enemy attack. In the end it’s left to Iron Man to save the day, with Tony Stark flying a nuclear bomb into the Chitauri’s base – nearly sacrificing himself. The heroes then go to dinner together and it’s clear from this moment on they’ll be operating in that exact way: together.

6 Steve Discovers Bucky Is Alive

Steve Rogers thought he had seen the last of Bucky Barnes when the latter tumbled off a freight train during Captain America: The First Avenger. However, that isn’t the case with Bucky instead become a Hydra guinea pig and being transformed into The Winter Soldier, who becomes the villain of the appropriately-titled sequel Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

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Cap desperately battles his former friend, trying to jog old memories and get him to abandon his mission of eliminating all enemy threats. And this is the movie where we get the first sense of how vital their relationship is not just to each other, but other MCU characters as well.

5 Civil War

Steve’s loyalty to Bucky and determination to steer his friend back onto a right and noble path ultimately leads to conflict in 2016’s Captain America: Civil War. And Civil War itself is a vital moment due to the fact it’s where the Avengers disband and begin to operate separately, rather than together.

What’s most devastating about the movie is how Captain America and Iron Man fight on opposing sides, refusing to put the good of the world first and instead going to war for individualistic reasons. This moment also means the Avengers become weaker and gives Thanos the advantage when he attacks earth amid his desire to collect all six Infinity Stones two years later. Had they stayed together, they may have won first time around.

4 The Snap

The snap was, hands down, the biggest moment in MCU history prior to the release of Avengers: Endgame. It was the first time we see our heroes lose, and lose big, with half of the entire universe perishing when Thanos succeeds in his quest to snap his fingers and eliminate half of all life.

It is a truly groundbreaking event for two reasons. One, it sees valued heroes such as Spider-Man, Star Lord, Black Panther, Doctor Strange and Bucky Barnes all dusted – literally. And two because it renders the world a giant mess for five years with humanity unable to come to terms with Thanos’ barbaric act of cruelty.

3 Ant-Man Enters The Quantum Realm

Ant-Man and the Wasp is not one of the best MCU movies. It’s a welcome tonic following the sob fest that was Infinity War, however, with Paul Rudd’s Scott Lang, Michael Pena’s Luis an even Michael Douglas’ Hank Pym all providing us with laughs. However, with a forgettable villain, it fails to rank as high as other blockbusters in the franchise.

RELATED: MCU: 10 Things We’ve Learned About Avengers: Endgame Since Its Release

That’s not to say it’s completely useless, though, with the movie containing the massive scene of Hank Pym venturing into the Quantum Realm to save his wife and Scott doing the same at the end of the movie. This paves the way for time travel which, even in a franchise as convoluted as the MCU, is something pretty special.

2 Getting Time Travel To Work

Avengers: Endgame is a movie that clocks in at just over three hours and, because it’s so long, it contains many important moments. Arguably the second-biggest of the entire movie comes extremely early on when Tony Stark figures out a way for time travel to work.

Previously, Stark had refused to even entertain the idea that time would help them bring Thanos’ snapped victims back to life. He had been pretty clear on that when Captain America, Ant-Man and Black Widow all traveled to his cozy shack to try and talk him into it. However, Stark’s curiosity gets the better of him and his discovery creates a path for the Avengers to win and right the wrongs of five years before.

1 The End Of An Era

Iron Man’s sacrifice at the end of Avengers: Endgame is a huge moment in the series. Not just because he turns Thanos into dust with a click of his fingers – but it also signifies the end of an era.

Tony Stark’s death means his time in the MCU is over, while Bruce Banner’s involvement going forward is up in the air following the injury he sustains when bringing the dead back. Captain America travels back in time to be with Peggy Carter – so he’s out of the picture too. Thor is the only member of the ‘big three’ still going but he, too, will no doubt change when he goes on adventures with the Guardians of the Galaxy.

NEXT: MCU: 6 Characters Who Changed In 2019 (& 4 Who Didn’t)

2019-10-03 03:10:13

Jack Otway

When The Mandalorian Is Set In The Star Wars Timeline

When is The Mandalorian set in relation to the rest of the Star Wars universe? For most of its lifetime, Star Wars has saved its live-action adventures for the big screen, with animated fare such as Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels propping  up the franchise’s television output. That’s all set to change now that Disney have an entire streaming platform to stock with original content, and several live-action Star Wars TV shows are set to drop, with The Mandalorian slated to arrive first.

Borne out of the dropped Boba Fett solo movie concept, The Mandalorian stars Pedro Pascal as the titular bounty hunter navigating the galaxy’s lawless outer reaches. Although many specifics of The Mandalorian remain under wraps, an impressive supporting cast has been revealed that includes Giancarlo Esposito (Breaking Bad‘s Gus Fring) as a former Empire Moff, Taika Waititi as the voice of an IG droid, and Gina Carano as a fellow mercenary. Nick Nolte, Ming-Na Wen, Bill Burr and Werner Herzog will also feature in currently unspecified roles.

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Disney’s expansion of the Star Wars universe has encompassed sequels, prequels and midquels, and The Mandalorian falls into the final category, set in between The Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens. The exact time placing has fluctuated somewhat throughout The Mandalorian‘s development, with Jon Favreau giving estimates between 3 and 7 years after the Battle of Endor but at the Star Wars Celebration held earlier this year, showrunner, Jon Favreau, confirmed that The Mandalorian would be set five years after The Return of the Jedi.

In terms of the Star Wars franchise’s standard calendar system, The Mandalorian is set in 9ABY (after the Battle of Yavin in A New Hope), which also means the story will take place 25 years prior to The Force Awakens.

This time frame will likely prove very fruitful for The Mandalorian, as the series will straddle both the original and sequel Star Wars trilogies, and allow elements (and characters) from both eras to be incorporated. The setting will also means that The Mandalorian can simultaneously explore the demise of the Empire – with Esposito’s character, for example – and the gradual rise of the First Order, with the outer region locale lending itself ideally to this purpose.

In terms of Disney’s updated Star Wars canon, the period in between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens is relatively unexplored, giving The Mandalorian a considerable sandbox to play with. Interestingly, the choice of time period also means that The Mandalorian should never catch up with The Force Awakens and be forced to skirt around the events of the movie series. This issue proved problematic for Star Trek: Discovery, which attempted to introduce a huge war between the Klingons and Federation only ten years prior to the start of the iconic original series.

More: The Mandalorian Trailer Breakdown: 22 Secrets & Story Reveals

The Mandalorian premieres November 12th on Disney+.

2019-09-28 03:09:46

Craig Elvy

Star Wars Timeline Gives Official Titles For Prequel, Original & New Trilogies

Disney and Lucasfilm have unveiled an official Star Wars timeline that finally names each of the three trilogy eras. George Lucas has always claimed he envisioned Star Wars as a trilogy of trilogies, and under Disney, that dream has become a reality.

Where some franchises largely operate in chronological order, Star Wars hops around the timeline with impunity. The timeline has become even more complex in the Disney era, with Lucasfilm releasing spinoff movies like Rogue One and Solo: A Star Wars Story. The books and the comics have taken to publishing official timelines – and at D23, Lucasfilm followed suit.

Related: The Mandalorian Trailer: Star Wars Comes To Live-Action TV

Lucasfilm released a timeline that shows all the films and TV shows to date. It breaks the timeline into three eras: the Age of Republic (the Prequels), the Age of Rebellion (the Original Trilogy) and the Age of Resistance (the Sequels). The comics and novels have been following this approach for almost a year now, but D23 has seen Lucasfilm embrace it as a defining part of the Star Wars franchise.


2019-08-23 05:08:17

Thomas Bacon

MCU Theory: Female Thor Is Jane Foster From Another Timeline

Jane Foster will return as the female Thor in Thor: Love and Thunder – and it’s possible her character comes from another MCU timeline. It had generally been assumed that Natalie Portman’s time in the MCU had come to an end; she and Marvel had parted ways after 2013’s Thor: The Dark World, and she didn’t even return to shoot new scenes for Avengers: Endgame. Then, to the surprise of the entire fanbase, Marvel used San Diego Comic-Con 2019 to announce that the character of Jane Foster is returning to the MCU.

But Thor: Love and Thunder promises to see Jane become more than just a love interest. Writer-director Taika Waititi indicated that his film would draw inspiration from Jason Aaron’s comic run, which saw Jane Foster wield Mjolnir as the Mighty Thor. Confirming this direction, Marvel handed Natalie Portman a prop of Thor’s enchanted hammer in San Diego, and she held it aloft. Soon, the MCU looks set to greet a new, female Thor.

Related: Mighty Thor: Natalie Portman’s New Hero Name Explained

There’s a sense in which this was effectively foreshadowed in Avengers: Endgame, when Captain America lifted Mjolnir and gained all the power of Thor himself. That served as a potent reminder that Thor Odinson isn’t the only person in the cosmos who is worthy to wield Mjolnir, and sets the precedent for others to do the same. But there’s just one problem; the Mjolnir Steve Rogers used was retrieved from an alternate timeline, and was returned to its own time. The Mjolnir of the mainstream MCU was destroyed by Hela in Thor: Ragnarok. So how can Jane Foster possibly gain Mjolnir, let alone become the Mighty Thor?

Thor: Ragnarok may have been something of a slapstick superhero comedy, but it dealt the God of Thunder some of his biggest losses. One of the worst was the destruction of his enchanted hammer, Mjolnir, which he tossed at Hela in an act that he’ll forever regret. Thor had no idea how truly powerful his sister was, and she effortlessly caught Mjolnir and crushed it. The shards of broken Uru were left dumped on the cliffs of Tønsberg, in Norway.

According to co-writer Erik Pearson, Mjolnir’s destruction served a crucial purpose in Thor: Ragnarok‘s story. “We’ve put a lot of doubt into his heart,” he pointed out, noting that Thor initially believed the destruction of Mjolnir even meant the end of his power. “That was… the hero’s journey of finding the confidence in himself to rise up against all this crazy stuff that’s happening to him.” But, while the end of Mjolnir may have been predominantly for story purposes, it was clearly intended to be decisive. The hammer was supposed to be gone for good.

Avengers: Endgame introduced a fresh wrinkle in this story, though, when Thor took another Mjolnir from an alternate timeline. That particular reality had been created by the Avengers, and Steve Rogers essentially destroyed it when he returned the Aether and Thor’s enchanted hammer to the past. But this raises the intriguing possibility that there are other branches of time where Mjolnir was never destroyed at all.

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Mysterio may have been faking Spider-Man out when he talked about the Multiverse in Spider-Man: Far From Home, but the concept will clearly be central to the MCU in 2021. Two of the Disney+ TV shows releasing that year are about the Multiverse, Loki and What If?. Meanwhile, one of the other films releasing that year is Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. It’s true that the first Doctor Strange film used the word “Multiverse” to refer to other planes of existence, such as the Quantum Realm or the Dark Dimension, rather than alternate realities; but the sequel also features Scarlet Witch, a character who’s created entire alternate timelines in the comics.

Given so much of 2021’s MCU revolves around the Multiverse, could it also be key to Thor: Love and Thunder? One comic book story may suggest a way the Multiverse could introduce a new Mjolnir. Marvel’s “Age of Ultron” comic event saw the fabric of reality itself damaged by repeated time travel. The space-time continuum fractured; realities merged, portals opened between the dimensions, and actual living beings traveled from one reality to another. It wouldn’t be a surprise for Doctor Strange 2 to have similar consequences. That could well mean the Mjolnir of another universe winds up in the MCU. On the other hand, it could mean actual living beings jump from one timeline to another instead.

Related: Doctor Strange 2 Theory: Scarlet Witch IS The Multiverse Madness

It’s important to note that Taika Waititi’s whole approach to Thor: Love and Thunder is very different to the one he took with Thor: Ragnarok. Discussing Ragnarok, in an interview with The Empire Film Podcast, Waititi admitted he’d not bothered to refer to the comics at all. “I read one issue of Thor as my research,” he noted. “Not even a graphic novel, one of the thin, thin ones. And by the end of it I was like, well we’re not doing that, let’s not really look at those anymore.” In contrast, when Marvel Studios announced Thor: Love and Thunder at SDCC 2019 they stressed how Waititi had been reading through the Jason Aaron run.

That makes sense; Aaron was the one who came up with Jane Foster’s Thor in the first place, and wrote her story for four years. But it also means that even minor elements of the Aaron run may actually be relevant to Thor: Love and Thunder. Interestingly, Aaron’s story ran through the Multiversal “Secret Wars” arc, which saw every alternate reality collide together to create a single planet called Battleworld. All the Thors of the Multiverse essentially became Battleworld’s police force, and Jane Foster served a crucial role in this story, turning the Thors against Battleworld’s ruler, Doom. It wouldn’t be a surprise, then, to see Waititi lift the idea of a Thor arriving from another timeline.

Related: Why Natalie Portman Originally Left The Thor Movies

Putting the pieces together, then, it’s certainly possible that Jane Foster’s Thor could originate from an entirely different reality. That would allow Waititi to avoid reversing Mjolnir’s destruction, which was such a major part of Thor’s arc. It would also fit the growing emphasis on the Multiverse, and perhaps flow organically from Doctor Strange 2.; there’s even comic book precedent. In narrative terms, there’d be huge advantages to this approach, because the female Thor could be a seasoned and experienced warrior, with no “Learning Curve” plot as she struggles to master her powers. Meanwhile, it would be quite entertaining to see Thor confused by a version of Jane Foster who’s different to the woman he loved. It would also mean Portman got to have a fresh start.

Of course, if the Mighty Thor does indeed come from another reality, it raises the possibility that there could be other Thors as well. That might even be how the MCU finally introduces Beta Ray Bill, a Korbinite warrior who’s famed for wielding both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker in the comics. Marvel’s long wanted to find a way to introduce him – in fact, Beta Ray Bill almost appeared in Thor: Ragnarok – but has never quite found the right way to pull it off. Given Bill was another key player in Aaron’s Thors miniseries, there’s no reason Thor: Love and Thunder has to settle for just the two Thors.

Next: Why Valkyrie Isn’t Becoming Mighty Thor In The MCU

2019-08-11 01:08:32

Thomas Bacon

Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’s Ending: What Happens In The New Timeline

Warning: SPOILERS ahead for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

What happens after Once Upon a Time in Hollywood ends? Directed by Quentin Tarantino, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood takes place in 1969 and concludes with a revised version of the infamous Manson Family murders. In real life, actress Sharon Tate and four others were killed by the Manson Family at her and Roman Polanski’s home.

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood stars Leonardo DiCaprio as Western actor Rick Dalton and Brad Pitt as his long-time stuntman, Cliff Booth, with Margot Robbie as Sharon Tate. After a series of events that lead up to the infamous night in August 1969, Tarantino takes this opportunity to change up a few things. In Once Upon a Time in Hollywood‘s ending, Cliff – tripping on acid – kills members of the Manson family, while an extremely drunk Rick uses a flamethrower to finish off the last would-be killer.

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Once Upon a Time in Hollywood concludes with a sequence full of comedy and horror, followed by a poignant moment in which Tate invites Rick over for a drink. Tarantino alters history with Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, so what happens next?

How Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’s Ending Changes Real Life

During the late hours of August 8, 1969, four members of the Manson Family left Spahn Ranch for Tate and Polanski’s Cielo Drive home in Hollywood. Charles Manson was indeed familiar with the location, as it was previously the home of his music industry associate, Terry Melcher. In fact, Melcher produced ‘60s classics for the American rock group Paul Revere & the Raiders, whose music Tate dances to throughout Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Tarantino stays true to the facts in that Tex Watson, Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel, and Linda Kasabian were directed to Cielo Drive by Manson, hoping to incite a race war known as “Helter Skelter.” The late Steve McQueen was scheduled to visit Tate on the night of the murders but ultimately made other plans.

Tarantino strays from the facts in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood when Rick, a fictional character, approaches the Manson Family in their vehicle. Soon thereafter, the “hippies” identify Rick as the star of the (fictional) Western series Bounty Law, and decide to kill the celebrity actor who indirectly introduced violence to them as children. Plot-wise, this sets up a moment of truth for Rick, as the entire film is essentially about him overcoming his personal conflict. After the Manson Family changes their plans, Kasabian (Maya Hawke) takes off in the group’s vehicle. In actuality, she stayed in the car while the Manson Family murdered the occupants of 10050 Cielo Drive. Kasabian was later a key witness during subsequent trials. In Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’s climax, Cliff kills Watson and Krenwinkle, with the assistance of his dog, Brandy. An injured Atkins stumbles outside to the pool area, where she’s eventually burned to death by Rick.

As for the real-life events, Watson murdered 18-year-old Steven Parent, who had been visiting the Polanski guest house and was leaving in his vehicle. In Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Cliff takes a walk with Brandy, and Rick approaches the Manson Family car. These moments seem to replace what happened to Parent. Inside the Polanski home, Tate (over eight months pregnant) was murdered, along with celebrity hair stylist Jay Sebring, Polankski’s friend Wojciech Frykowski, and coffee heiress Abigail Folger – all of whom survive in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. As the Manson Family left, they wrote the word “PIG” with Tate’s blood on the front door. In Tarantino’s film, that’s the exact spot where Robbie’s Tate first sees Charles Manson, who only appears that one time in the film.

Related: The True Story Behind Tarantino’s Once Upon A Time In Hollywood

What Happens To Rick And Company After Once Upon A Time In Hollywood’s Ending

From a hopeful point of view, Rick would theoretically become friends with Polanski and Tate. During Once Upon a Time in Hollywood‘s final moments, Sebring speaks glowingly of the former Bounty Law star, and suggests that Tate feels the same. Instead of releasing Macbeth in 1971, Polanski undoubtedly would’ve made a much different film, perhaps one starring Rick, Tate, and maybe some celebrity friends, like the aforementioned McQueen. At the very least, Rick would’ve been immersed into a new celebrity circle, which calls back to an early sequence in which he muses about the “one pool party” that could change everything.

With Cliff, it’s difficult to predict just how long he could work as a Hollywood stuntman. But if Rick managed to become friends with Polanski and Tate, his stuntman certainly would’ve been part of the group as well. And so the Cliff Booth myth – whether or not Cliff killed his wife – would’ve been replaced with a new myth: how he killed Manson Family members while tripping on acid. Because of all this, it’s certainly possible that both Rick and Cliff would have experienced a career revival throughout the 1970s, one aided by Polanski’s films.

As for those who were killed by the Manson Family in real life, if Tate had survived, she would’ve become an A-list celebrity in Hollywood. And given her marriage to Polanski, she probably would’ve crossed over into European Art House cinema as well. Tate would’ve been competing for roles with American actresses such as Sissy Spacek, Diane Keaton, and Cybill Shepherd, and she would’ve gained the attention of American New Wave directors such as Martin Scorsese, Brian De Palma, Peter Bogdanovich, Steven Spielberg, and even Woody Allen. All in all, everyone would’ve seen their careers rise higher.

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What Would Happen To Charles Manson?

It’s entirely possible that Manson would’ve devised a new plan after his first one failed. He might’ve even planned to target Rick and Cliff the second time around. But Kasabian’s escape is crucial. In real life, she testified against the Manson Family, and she perhaps would’ve done the same in Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. The Manson Family really did indeed live at Spahn Ranch, and they could easily pull surprise attacks on unsuspecting celebrities. But the thing is, Cliff knew who they were and where they lived, so it’s unlikely that any of them would have been able to avoid the police for too long. And if not for Cliff, then Kasabian’s escape itself could foreshadow Manson’s future in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

Next: Everybody Who Plays A Real Person In Once Upon A Time In Hollywood

2019-08-09 05:08:54

Q.V. Hough